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I was scared to death.

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I was totally alone

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and I just didn't know
what else to do.

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I could just imagine
Dana coming after me.

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So I got my husband
Russell's gun...

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...and waited.

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I kept an eye
on the two doors

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that you could enter
from the street.

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If she came through one door,

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I was gonna run out
the other.

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And if I couldn't get out,

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last choice
would've been a gun.

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Welcome to Very Scary People.

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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

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In 1994,

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a vicious killer targets
vulnerable women

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in a gated
California community.

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But unlike most
serial killer cases,

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these gruesome crimes
are committed by a woman,

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not a man.

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A woman driven by hate, greed,

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and a thirst for blood.

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This is the Angel of Death.

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I was, uh, at
the Perris Police Department

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working in
the detective bureau

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when my sergeant came in,

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told me that
there was a dead body

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up in the Canyon Lake area.

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Canyon Lake
is a gated community,

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it's an affluent area,
million-dollar homes,

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and it's a good drive.

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It's about a 15,
20-minute drive.

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Once I got to the scene,
when I first saw the victim,

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it was shocking.

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I wondered who would do
something like this

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to an 87-year-old woman.

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Norma Davis was seated

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in a golden recliner

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and she had a knife
coming out of her chest,

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and one out
of the right side of her neck.

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So when they rolled
the head back,

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the head almost came off.

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We checked the knives

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and determined
that they had come

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from the butcher block
down in the kitchen.

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And we noticed that
there was a telephone cord

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under the body,

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so we could see that

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somehow that that might
be involved as well.

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It definitely
looked rageful to me.

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Then you start processing
in your mind,

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how was the killer doing this?

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And what they teach you
in profiling

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is the more injuries
that are violent

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and closer to the face,

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it's more of a passion thing,

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so the closer the relationship
to the victim.

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You can't really make
any assumptions at that point,

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but you start thinking,
"Okay. Is...

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It could be family-related."

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As police process
the crime scene,

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Norma's former
daughter-in-law,

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Jeri Armbrust

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arrives with her husband,
Russell.

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When I was told that Nana
had died, it was...

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It was not believable.

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It was just something that
happened to other people.

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I couldn't really comprehend
that she was gone.

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I called her Mom,

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everyone else
called her Nana,

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but to me, she was Mom.

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The police asked lots
of questions about Nana.

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And I had really no answers.

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I couldn't imagine
how this would've happened.

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I noticed that Jeri
was wearing these Nike shoes.

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We were able to pick up
a dust Nike shoe print

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from the house.

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The shoe print was a size 6.

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Jeri was a caretaker.

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She was the last person
to see the victim alive.

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That definitely stood out.

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I thought maybe she was
the one that killed her.

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I noticed them looking
at me sort of strangely,

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but I didn't think
anything of it.

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Detective Greco
believes Norma

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knew her killer.

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He wants to know more about

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Jeri's relationship
with Norma

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to see if she or someone
in her family

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could've killed her.

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Russell, my husband,
and I were separated

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and each of us
interrogated separately.

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They went over
to my daughter,

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my son in Hollywood,

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my son in Huntington Beach.

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My family at that point

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included my husband,
Russell's daughter, Dana,

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who was a nurse.

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Detective Greco
immediately discounted that

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because he had a sister
who was a nurse

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and he knew that nurses
could not possibly be involved

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in something
as horrendous as this.

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But Detective Greco
has no idea how wrong he is.

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Because 37 years earlier,

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a killer was born
into Jeri's extended family.

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Russell met Dana's mother,
who was a beauty queen,

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and she must have been
a beautiful person

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on the outside,

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but she had really
big problems on the inside.

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But he did marry her anyway.

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He was delighted when
they had their little child,

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little Dana.

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He doted on her
from the time she was born.

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Dana Sue Gray
who was raised with money.

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She was raised in a culture
and an... A community

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where it was expected
that you had money.

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Russell was running
several beauty shops.

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He would have to hide
the money in the beauty shops

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because Beverly would come in

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and take it out
of the cash drawer.

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She spent money on clothes
and beauty products,

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and health products,
and just loved to spend.

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Didn't seem to matter
what she spent the money on.

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She was active in Scientology,

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she used a lot of her money
on the courses,

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and that drained a lot
of her personal funds.

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When Dana was around two
or three years old,

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her parents divorced.

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Russell told me
that the reason

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that he and Beverly divorced
was adultery.

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He would get calls
from the neighbors

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telling him that there was
another car there that day.

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And her father did stay
in her life supporting her.

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She had him wrapped
around her little finger.

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He believed anything
she told him.

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And he would've done
anything for her.

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In the Dana Sue Gray case,

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I was requested
to conduct an evaluation

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by the district attorney.

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Dana grew up largely

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in her mother's home.

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Mother was very fickle.

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It was all about herself.

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And so she did not have
an easy life.

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Growing up around
so much money

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is going to start building
a person who is very entitled.

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And with
a narcissistic mother,

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we know that
that usually is genetic.

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So we're starting to build
this entitlement of life.

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She's always gotten
what she's wanted.

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Dana's relationship
with her mom

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was contentious,
to say the least.

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She often told us
that her mom had said to her,

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"Well, I do love you,
but I don't like you."

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That was a point of resentment
on Dana's part,

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why her mother
is not giving her attention.

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At one point,
there had been a conflict

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with the mother

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in which Dana went
and took scissors

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and cut holes in her
mother's favorite dress.

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We see that kind of behavior
often in people

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who are sadistic.

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If you haven't hurt
the person,

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you damage something
that's important to them.

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When Dana is a teenager,

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her mother develops
breast cancer.

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Despite the doctors
and nurses

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doing everything they can,

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her mother dies in 1975.

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When her mother passed away
and gave all of the money

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to Scientology
and not to Dana,

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I can imagine
there was a growing desire

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to retaliate and harm those
who then had money.

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That was a really bad time
in her life.

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She came to live with Russell
and his then wife.

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Dana starts
to distract her emotions

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with risk-taking,
dangerous things.

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She was living a fast life.

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Skydiving, wave surfing,

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swimming,
appealing to a lot of men.

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She had a devil-may-care
attitude that they liked.

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I remember one time,
they had a picture

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that showed her skydiving
at the Grand Canyon in a...

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in a circle holding hands
with the other skydivers,

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which was completely illegal
to do at the time,

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but that's Dana.

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But she apparently
was very bright.

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She graduated from high school

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and completed
a nursing degree.

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I married Russell
when I was, I think, 48,

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which seems very young now.

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Dana and her father
got along quite well.

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So I had a picture
of her as a person

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who loved her dad
a great deal.

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The first time I met Dana,

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she was really upbeat,

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jivey kind of a gal.

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She just exuded energy.

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Dana works
for a few years as a nurse.

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And then in 1987,

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she gets married.

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Dana married William Gray.

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William was in a band

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and Dana sang in it sometimes.

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And they did wedding
related photography

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and other services.

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Dana and her husband
seemed happy.

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At the very outset,
Russell said to Bill,

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he said, "You are going
to have to sit on my daughter.

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She'll run right over you
if you don't."

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Dana and William
honeymoon in Hawaii.

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It's there,
in that sunny place,

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that William sees his wife's
dark side for the first time.

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She was on shore

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and he was in
a very dangerous situation.

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She sees that he is drowning,
he's calling out for help.

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He can't tread water,
he can't take control.

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Instead, she swims out to him

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and she takes the board
and brings it back to shore.

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And she sits there
and watches him.

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She could let him die

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or she could let him live.

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And I think Dana started
to realize that this is fun.

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As he struggles to
save himself from drowning,

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William Gray realizes
that his new wife, Dana,

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seems to have no interest
in rescuing him.

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If Dana is psychopathic,
I think in that moment,

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that was a very curious,
exciting time for her

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because she had all
of the power and control.

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He had to make his way
to a buoy

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and then pull himself in
on the rope.

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And he said,
"Why didn't you help me?

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I needed help."

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She said, "Well,
I knew you could do it."

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Dana and William's
honeymoon period

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fizzles out fast,

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and not just because of
the near drowning incident.

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In the early 1990s,
the economy crashed

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and their finances fell badly.

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They had bought a house.

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They ended up taking a second
and a third mortgage out.

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They were underwater
on their mortgage.

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They had maxed out
their credit cards.

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Bill had very little to say
in their marriage.

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Dana made the decisions
and she acted them out.

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She always liked
to have the best things.

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What Dana did model was

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a mother who was
a shopping addict,

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a mother who was
in love with herself.

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I think the core of it

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was that she wanted
to impress people

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and be similar
to those amongst her,

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like her mother had.

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So, it didn't matter
if she didn't have the money.

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It was more important
that she had the image.

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So, they had to rely
on Dana's salary.

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And so Dana worked two shifts
day after day, after day,

258
00:13:51,586 --> 00:13:55,068
to the point that Russell
was worried about her health.

259
00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:57,655
It made their life
very difficult,

260
00:13:57,724 --> 00:13:58,793
very stressful.

261
00:13:59,379 --> 00:14:02,103
There's a lot of fighting.

262
00:14:02,103 --> 00:14:05,827
And she did have
two miscarriages with him,

263
00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:09,103
and that was
a big disappointment.

264
00:14:10,172 --> 00:14:12,275
Their relationship
is strained.

265
00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:15,000
Their marriage
is already on thin ice,

266
00:14:16,172 --> 00:14:19,482
and Dana's eyes
start to wander.

267
00:14:19,482 --> 00:14:21,379
Bill always had a band.

268
00:14:21,379 --> 00:14:24,379
And in that band,
there was a particular man

269
00:14:24,379 --> 00:14:27,000
that Dana seemed
to be interested in.

270
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,758
She gravitated
towards this other man

271
00:14:29,827 --> 00:14:31,206
who had a child.

272
00:14:32,517 --> 00:14:34,551
Bill became jealous.

273
00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:37,379
Bill finally put
his foot down,

274
00:14:37,379 --> 00:14:40,551
and somehow it resulted
in Dana leaving

275
00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,862
and going to live
with the other man.

276
00:14:44,275 --> 00:14:46,931
Dana moved in with the man

277
00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,137
that she was having
the affair with

278
00:14:49,206 --> 00:14:52,344
and his young son
in a mobile home

279
00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:54,103
south of Lake Elsinore.

280
00:14:57,482 --> 00:14:59,896
Beginning in 1994,

281
00:14:59,896 --> 00:15:02,103
Dana's life
was very much different.

282
00:15:03,724 --> 00:15:06,172
She got into opioids

283
00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:09,758
and she had stolen meds
from patients

284
00:15:09,758 --> 00:15:13,551
and deprived them
of their meds

285
00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,241
when they were
in a lot of pain.

286
00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:20,000
So ultimately,
she lost her job.

287
00:15:20,068 --> 00:15:24,000
And so she didn't have
that income

288
00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,724
coming in anymore.

289
00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:28,758
She had moved
from a nice home

290
00:15:28,758 --> 00:15:30,310
in Canyon Lake

291
00:15:30,965 --> 00:15:32,551
to a mobile home

292
00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:35,551
in a deteriorating part
of Wildomar.

293
00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:38,482
And she was living
with a young child

294
00:15:38,482 --> 00:15:41,655
and she was
financially dependent.

295
00:15:41,724 --> 00:15:43,000
She was making curtains

296
00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:45,482
for this dilapidated
mobile home

297
00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:46,758
that he lived in.

298
00:15:46,827 --> 00:15:47,931
It was sad,

299
00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:49,965
not what she was used to.

300
00:15:49,965 --> 00:15:52,896
Dana was used to having
only the finest.

301
00:15:54,827 --> 00:15:58,310
Dana was drowning
her sorrows in alcohol.

302
00:16:00,068 --> 00:16:03,655
Dana is spiraling
and needs help.

303
00:16:03,724 --> 00:16:06,482
But she knows that
if it's money she wants,

304
00:16:06,482 --> 00:16:09,758
she might have better luck
asking Jeri than her father.

305
00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,827
I was Dana's
stepmother, legally.

306
00:16:14,896 --> 00:16:18,586
Dana and her dad, Russell,
were very, very close,

307
00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,793
and he would do anything
he could for her.

308
00:16:21,793 --> 00:16:26,275
But he had told me,
"Don't ever loan Dana money."

309
00:16:26,275 --> 00:16:27,965
She was totally out of money,

310
00:16:27,965 --> 00:16:30,103
totally broke all the time.

311
00:16:30,103 --> 00:16:34,068
I said, "It sounds to me
as if there's drugs involved."

312
00:16:34,068 --> 00:16:35,896
But Russell didn't believe it.

313
00:16:37,275 --> 00:16:39,172
Dana was talking about

314
00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:42,517
how she wanted
a better living situation.

315
00:16:43,793 --> 00:16:46,551
So I said, "Maybe we could
work something out

316
00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:47,448
with the condo."

317
00:16:48,689 --> 00:16:50,000
Jeri had recently bought

318
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,551
her former mother-in-law,

319
00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:53,551
Norma, a new condo.

320
00:16:54,689 --> 00:16:57,655
I said,
"Well, if Mom doesn't mind,

321
00:16:57,724 --> 00:16:59,793
you and your friend
and his son

322
00:16:59,793 --> 00:17:02,344
could possibly live there."

323
00:17:02,413 --> 00:17:04,793
At the time, I had thought
it might be beneficial

324
00:17:04,793 --> 00:17:07,103
because Mom's health
was not great

325
00:17:07,103 --> 00:17:09,931
and a nurse living with her
might be a good idea.

326
00:17:11,586 --> 00:17:13,344
But moving in
with Norma

327
00:17:13,413 --> 00:17:15,758
is the last thing
Dana wants to do.

328
00:17:16,275 --> 00:17:17,206
She grew up

329
00:17:17,206 --> 00:17:20,896
as a very entitled
kind of person

330
00:17:20,896 --> 00:17:24,000
who generally
in whatever situation

331
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000
she was in thought
of herself first.

332
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,379
She was enraged
at Norma and Jeri

333
00:17:31,379 --> 00:17:35,586
because she thinks Jeri
should give me my own place

334
00:17:35,586 --> 00:17:39,344
and how dare
she support this woman.

335
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,655
I'm struggling.

336
00:17:42,724 --> 00:17:44,965
You are doing this
on purpose.

337
00:17:44,965 --> 00:17:47,000
You are a horrible person.

338
00:17:47,068 --> 00:17:48,689
Now, I'm going to hurt you

339
00:17:48,689 --> 00:17:51,586
in one of the worst ways
I can imagine.

340
00:17:51,586 --> 00:17:55,241
I think that
it was building in her.

341
00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:56,379
We have early signs

342
00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,896
of narcissistic
personality disorder

343
00:17:58,896 --> 00:18:01,482
and we've got
these erratic emotions.

344
00:18:01,482 --> 00:18:04,586
All of this is paired
with this growing injustice.

345
00:18:04,586 --> 00:18:07,137
And it was a matter of time

346
00:18:07,206 --> 00:18:10,000
before Dana lost control

347
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,896
of all of these elements

348
00:18:11,896 --> 00:18:14,379
and needed to siphon them

349
00:18:14,379 --> 00:18:18,172
into one attack that
would give her the feelings

350
00:18:18,172 --> 00:18:21,275
that would calm
all the pain that she had.

351
00:18:27,103 --> 00:18:28,758
Dana crosses the line

352
00:18:28,758 --> 00:18:31,482
from an entitled,
but nonviolent person

353
00:18:31,482 --> 00:18:34,379
to someone completely
unrecognizable.

354
00:18:34,379 --> 00:18:38,172
Dana finds her way
to Norma's house.

355
00:18:41,482 --> 00:18:43,896
She's enraged with Jeri,

356
00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:48,620
but it's a displacement
from Jeri to Norma.

357
00:19:02,068 --> 00:19:05,482
And then Dana
repeatedly stabs her.

358
00:19:08,758 --> 00:19:11,137
She killed her
and then kept killing her.

359
00:19:11,482 --> 00:19:13,586
She kept raging on her

360
00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:16,413
and really,
really enjoying it,

361
00:19:17,586 --> 00:19:19,482
with every knife
and every stab wound

362
00:19:19,482 --> 00:19:21,655
and the near decapitation
of Norma.

363
00:19:28,413 --> 00:19:31,586
That has to do
with fulfilling Dana's needs

364
00:19:31,586 --> 00:19:33,758
of empowering herself.

365
00:19:45,379 --> 00:19:49,862
We found Norma
on February 16th, 1994.

366
00:19:49,862 --> 00:19:51,689
The coroner established
that the victim

367
00:19:51,689 --> 00:19:53,655
had been dead
a couple of days.

368
00:19:53,724 --> 00:19:55,758
Norma Davis was stabbed
ten times

369
00:19:55,758 --> 00:19:57,758
and then nearly decapitated.

370
00:19:57,827 --> 00:20:00,068
We feel that
it's a personal killing,

371
00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,827
but we still have
no suspects.

372
00:20:02,965 --> 00:20:05,448
The shoeprint in the doorway

373
00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:07,000
doesn't really
give us anything

374
00:20:07,068 --> 00:20:09,896
because if it matched Jeri,

375
00:20:09,896 --> 00:20:11,586
she had access to the house.

376
00:20:11,586 --> 00:20:14,172
She was taking care of Norma.

377
00:20:14,172 --> 00:20:17,655
However, that shoeprint
didn't match Jeri.

378
00:20:18,482 --> 00:20:21,068
The shoeprint was submitted
to the laboratory.

379
00:20:21,068 --> 00:20:22,758
Analysis was performed,

380
00:20:22,827 --> 00:20:24,000
but none of those analyses

381
00:20:24,068 --> 00:20:26,344
led to any perpetrator.

382
00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:28,482
Based on the shoeprint,

383
00:20:28,482 --> 00:20:30,379
we knew that
the person had to be

384
00:20:30,379 --> 00:20:32,620
a smaller male or a woman.

385
00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:36,482
I believe
that the police

386
00:20:36,482 --> 00:20:38,586
finally eliminated me
as a suspect

387
00:20:38,586 --> 00:20:40,689
when they checked
the shoe size.

388
00:20:40,689 --> 00:20:42,758
The shoe size
was different from mine.

389
00:20:43,689 --> 00:20:45,551
But I pointed out to them,

390
00:20:46,586 --> 00:20:48,620
I loved her, number one.

391
00:20:48,896 --> 00:20:50,206
Number two...

392
00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,000
I just couldn't have done
such a thing.

393
00:20:58,172 --> 00:21:00,758
Number three, I had no motive.

394
00:21:00,758 --> 00:21:03,000
When you see
an elderly person

395
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,344
that's murdered that way,

396
00:21:05,413 --> 00:21:08,448
it evokes almost
a sick feeling in your...

397
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:09,689
In the pit of your stomach,

398
00:21:09,689 --> 00:21:12,482
because if that person
were to do that

399
00:21:12,482 --> 00:21:15,275
to an 87-year-old,

400
00:21:15,275 --> 00:21:17,758
there's no stopping
what that person would do.

401
00:21:27,379 --> 00:21:29,379
I don't think
any of us were thinking

402
00:21:29,379 --> 00:21:31,586
serial crime at that moment.

403
00:21:31,586 --> 00:21:33,448
We were thinking
a singular crime,

404
00:21:33,517 --> 00:21:34,931
which would make more sense.

405
00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:40,620
A random act of violence
in a quiet community.

406
00:21:41,896 --> 00:21:43,758
And then,
two weeks later,

407
00:21:43,827 --> 00:21:47,448
while doing my investigation
into the Norma case,

408
00:21:47,517 --> 00:21:50,000
I got another call
of another homicide

409
00:21:50,482 --> 00:21:51,896
up in the Canyon Lake area...

410
00:21:53,517 --> 00:21:55,310
...of another
elderly female.

411
00:22:09,793 --> 00:22:11,793
Dana liked killing Norma

412
00:22:12,482 --> 00:22:14,413
and she wanted to do it again.

413
00:22:23,068 --> 00:22:24,275
Dana is babysitting

414
00:22:24,275 --> 00:22:26,620
her boyfriend's
five-year-old son

415
00:22:26,689 --> 00:22:29,344
when she puts him in the car
and drives to the home

416
00:22:29,344 --> 00:22:32,689
of 66-year-old June Roberts.

417
00:22:34,172 --> 00:22:37,275
June was a part of Jeri,

418
00:22:37,275 --> 00:22:39,310
her stepmother's life,

419
00:22:39,379 --> 00:22:42,103
and also knew Norma.

420
00:22:44,551 --> 00:22:48,000
June Roberts
was a very outgoing person.

421
00:22:48,379 --> 00:22:51,206
She liked to golf.

422
00:22:51,896 --> 00:22:54,379
She was very interested
in herbs,

423
00:22:54,379 --> 00:22:58,413
so she handled a lot
of people's ailments

424
00:22:58,482 --> 00:22:59,931
with her advice.

425
00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:03,827
Dana knew June very well

426
00:23:03,896 --> 00:23:05,827
and she went to see her often,

427
00:23:05,896 --> 00:23:09,172
consulting her about
various herbal remedies.

428
00:23:11,482 --> 00:23:14,413
Dana tells the boy
to wait in the car.

429
00:23:14,482 --> 00:23:15,620
She puts on gloves

430
00:23:16,172 --> 00:23:18,379
and knocks
on June's front door.

431
00:23:19,068 --> 00:23:22,448
She allegedly told June

432
00:23:22,448 --> 00:23:24,655
that she had
a drinking problem

433
00:23:24,655 --> 00:23:27,724
and that she needed
to get some vitamins

434
00:23:27,793 --> 00:23:29,827
and to get herself clean.

435
00:23:30,965 --> 00:23:33,000
And she claims that

436
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,275
June was putting her down

437
00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,172
for her drinking

438
00:23:39,172 --> 00:23:42,275
and that this was
what triggered her.

439
00:23:43,034 --> 00:23:46,034
Dana asked to borrow a book.

440
00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:47,827
June offered to go get a book

441
00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:49,379
and bring it back to Dana.

442
00:23:51,172 --> 00:23:53,793
And she pushed herself
into the home saying,

443
00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:56,000
"I'll find the book
on my own."

444
00:23:59,586 --> 00:24:02,310
As they were looking
for the books,

445
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,241
she then began to murder June.

446
00:24:10,034 --> 00:24:14,172
June was killed
with a telephone cord.

447
00:24:16,586 --> 00:24:18,034
Dana had to use a chair

448
00:24:18,034 --> 00:24:21,275
to have enough strength
to kill June.

449
00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:25,068
She tied the phone cord
to the chair,

450
00:24:25,068 --> 00:24:27,896
put the chair over June,
and then further,

451
00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:31,827
used a wine decanter
to bash in June's head.

452
00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:41,344
A lot of murderers
I've worked with

453
00:24:41,344 --> 00:24:45,034
have described a feeling
of boringness in their lives

454
00:24:45,034 --> 00:24:47,931
that is so strong
they don't wanna live.

455
00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,517
And when they engage
in the act of murder,

456
00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:54,000
they feel like themselves.

457
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,482
They feel whole.

458
00:24:55,482 --> 00:24:58,172
So I can imagine
that when Dana was staring

459
00:24:58,172 --> 00:24:59,620
into June's eyes,

460
00:25:00,275 --> 00:25:02,103
she felt like herself.

461
00:25:02,103 --> 00:25:04,931
And then she started
to build up that stimulation

462
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,689
where that murder became
more and more grotesque,

463
00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:10,517
bashing her skull in.

464
00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:14,000
She stole from June.

465
00:25:14,793 --> 00:25:17,931
She rifled through her purse

466
00:25:18,448 --> 00:25:20,896
and took major credit cards.

467
00:25:24,655 --> 00:25:27,689
Dana calmly returns
to the boy in her car,

468
00:25:27,689 --> 00:25:29,517
still buckled into his seat.

469
00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,931
I still can't believe that

470
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,413
she could have left
that little boy in the car

471
00:25:35,482 --> 00:25:38,137
and gone in
and murdered someone.

472
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:42,000
Everything Dana did
was just unbelievable.

473
00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:44,137
But she was now able

474
00:25:44,137 --> 00:25:47,586
to give this son
the perfect day,

475
00:25:47,586 --> 00:25:50,000
the perfect mother-son day,

476
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,793
and thoroughly enjoys it.

477
00:25:51,793 --> 00:25:53,724
They have lunch.
He gets a haircut.

478
00:25:53,793 --> 00:25:55,172
They go shopping.

479
00:25:58,793 --> 00:26:01,551
Dana went on a spending spree

480
00:26:01,551 --> 00:26:04,517
with June Roberts'
credit cards.

481
00:26:08,896 --> 00:26:11,275
It's not uncommon for killers

482
00:26:11,275 --> 00:26:14,413
to have special people
in their life.

483
00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:18,241
She wanted a child
that she could care for,

484
00:26:18,551 --> 00:26:19,896
so she overly attached

485
00:26:19,896 --> 00:26:22,310
to this young
five-year-old boy.

486
00:26:23,689 --> 00:26:25,482
When she had miscarriages,

487
00:26:25,482 --> 00:26:27,344
she likely had a lot of hope

488
00:26:27,344 --> 00:26:28,931
and then her hope fell,

489
00:26:30,034 --> 00:26:33,241
and I can imagine
it was gutting for her.

490
00:26:33,241 --> 00:26:35,793
And I think it became
very important to her

491
00:26:35,793 --> 00:26:38,310
to have her own child.

492
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:40,931
So now that she has access
to June's money,

493
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,965
she can provide the life

494
00:26:42,965 --> 00:26:45,517
she wanted to give this boy.

495
00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:47,758
She doesn't have
to ask her boyfriend

496
00:26:47,758 --> 00:26:49,310
for money anymore

497
00:26:49,379 --> 00:26:52,931
and she can be the mother
that she wanted to be.

498
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,379
She can be the mother
that she wanted to have.

499
00:27:00,344 --> 00:27:03,586
While Dana blows
through her victim's money,

500
00:27:03,586 --> 00:27:06,689
June's friends make
a horrible discovery.

501
00:27:07,448 --> 00:27:08,758
When they went
inside the house,

502
00:27:08,758 --> 00:27:11,517
they found her murdered
inside of her house.

503
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,965
When you first walked
into the scene,

504
00:27:17,965 --> 00:27:20,620
what you saw was a woman

505
00:27:21,379 --> 00:27:24,068
laying on her right side,

506
00:27:24,068 --> 00:27:26,551
had slid up against a desk,

507
00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:28,000
and you could see
the blood smear

508
00:27:28,068 --> 00:27:29,517
as it was coming down
the desk.

509
00:27:30,655 --> 00:27:32,172
A telephone cord
had been wrapped

510
00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:34,000
around her neck tightly

511
00:27:34,068 --> 00:27:36,896
and then tied
to the arm of the chair.

512
00:27:37,896 --> 00:27:40,137
There was glass fragments
everywhere

513
00:27:40,137 --> 00:27:41,793
because she had been hit
in the head

514
00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:44,620
with a heavy wine
decanter bottle.

515
00:27:45,275 --> 00:27:47,137
And it appeared
that the suspect

516
00:27:47,137 --> 00:27:49,034
had gone through the wallet

517
00:27:49,034 --> 00:27:52,000
and some of her credit cards
were missing.

518
00:27:57,896 --> 00:28:01,068
One glaring similarity
between the two scenes

519
00:28:01,068 --> 00:28:04,482
was the use of the phone cord
for strangulation

520
00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:06,310
and there were all
items of value

521
00:28:06,379 --> 00:28:07,827
that were left behind.

522
00:28:08,172 --> 00:28:09,517
In the June Roberts' case,

523
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:11,413
her ring was still
left behind.

524
00:28:11,482 --> 00:28:13,896
There was a check
that was still left behind

525
00:28:13,896 --> 00:28:15,379
at the Norma Davis case.

526
00:28:17,379 --> 00:28:19,448
Also, one of the areas
that we looked at,

527
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:21,275
June had an open Bible.

528
00:28:22,586 --> 00:28:24,758
As I recall,
looking into the open Bible,

529
00:28:24,758 --> 00:28:26,103
she had a prayer list

530
00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:29,655
and was stunned when we saw
Norma Davis' name

531
00:28:29,655 --> 00:28:31,000
on her prayer list.

532
00:28:32,379 --> 00:28:35,241
And so there was a connection
between these two victims.

533
00:28:35,241 --> 00:28:37,379
We didn't know what it was
at the time,

534
00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:40,068
but certainly seeing
a close-knit community

535
00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:43,275
who was really grieving
the loss of the first victim

536
00:28:43,275 --> 00:28:46,034
that she placed
this recent crime victim

537
00:28:46,034 --> 00:28:48,000
on her prayer list.

538
00:28:50,275 --> 00:28:52,413
Now, we wanna know

539
00:28:52,482 --> 00:28:53,896
was there any
kind of connection

540
00:28:53,896 --> 00:28:56,000
to Norma Davis' murder?

541
00:28:57,172 --> 00:28:59,620
I was close to June.

542
00:28:59,689 --> 00:29:01,758
I can't really describe
how I felt then.

543
00:29:01,758 --> 00:29:04,103
I was... I was in shock.

544
00:29:07,793 --> 00:29:11,413
June used to play golf
with Jeri.

545
00:29:11,482 --> 00:29:14,344
So there is a relationship
and a continuation

546
00:29:14,344 --> 00:29:18,482
of Dana's retaliation
against Jeri.

547
00:29:21,103 --> 00:29:23,413
I knew there was a predator
on the loose,

548
00:29:23,482 --> 00:29:25,000
somebody that was killing
older people,

549
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,275
elderly people in that area.

550
00:29:27,275 --> 00:29:30,551
I thought
it had to be a serial killer.

551
00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:32,034
Somebody who killed Norma

552
00:29:32,034 --> 00:29:35,517
had killed the second victim.

553
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,862
I couldn't believe
June had been killed.

554
00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:43,517
She lived not very far away
from us.

555
00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:47,827
Probably four houses away.

556
00:29:49,275 --> 00:29:54,206
And we all had been together
many times

557
00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:57,103
and now she's gone too.

558
00:29:58,586 --> 00:29:59,758
I called my children
and said,

559
00:29:59,758 --> 00:30:02,241
"Somebody is targeting
our community."

560
00:30:03,965 --> 00:30:05,137
"Please be careful.

561
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:06,517
Watch out for everybody.

562
00:30:06,586 --> 00:30:08,551
Don't get close to anyone."

563
00:30:08,551 --> 00:30:09,793
But I had no information

564
00:30:09,793 --> 00:30:11,689
that I could give
to the police

565
00:30:11,689 --> 00:30:13,344
that would help them.

566
00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:14,758
When June Roberts
was murdered,

567
00:30:14,758 --> 00:30:16,827
that threw out my whole idea

568
00:30:16,896 --> 00:30:19,620
that it was a random thing
with my grandmother, my nana.

569
00:30:19,689 --> 00:30:22,793
Very few people would have
traveled in the same circles

570
00:30:22,793 --> 00:30:25,241
that my nana
and June Roberts did.

571
00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:27,827
Now, I was really worried
about my mom...

572
00:30:29,172 --> 00:30:31,724
'cause, obviously,
she could be next.

573
00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:35,068
Dana Sue Gray hardly matched

574
00:30:35,068 --> 00:30:37,172
the profile
of a serial killer,

575
00:30:37,172 --> 00:30:40,172
yet she's already claimed
two victims

576
00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:41,896
and there are more to come.

577
00:30:41,896 --> 00:30:44,448
She seems to have an appetite
for murder.

578
00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:46,103
And while Gray
is on the street,

579
00:30:46,103 --> 00:30:48,310
no one is safe from her wrath.

580
00:31:02,482 --> 00:31:04,000
My first thought was that

581
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,482
these two cases
might be connected.

582
00:31:08,275 --> 00:31:10,310
You don't wanna read
into everything

583
00:31:10,379 --> 00:31:11,448
and make an assumption

584
00:31:11,448 --> 00:31:13,000
that the two crimes
are related.

585
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,448
You have to take a step back
and say objectively,

586
00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:17,517
"What evidence might
we be looking for

587
00:31:17,586 --> 00:31:19,862
at both of these scenes
to connect them?

588
00:31:19,862 --> 00:31:22,413
What did the victims
have in common?

589
00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:23,551
And what does
that information mean

590
00:31:23,551 --> 00:31:26,241
in the context
of the serial crime?"

591
00:31:26,241 --> 00:31:28,413
It raised
a lot of questions for me

592
00:31:28,482 --> 00:31:32,172
because I had never worked
a serial crime before.

593
00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:36,137
I was overwhelmed.

594
00:31:36,137 --> 00:31:39,000
I was thinking
that I was one detective

595
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,482
who just had a homicide

596
00:31:40,482 --> 00:31:42,344
and now I've got
a second homicide

597
00:31:42,344 --> 00:31:44,793
and, potentially, it could
have been a serial killer.

598
00:31:48,482 --> 00:31:50,310
We had nothing.

599
00:31:50,379 --> 00:31:52,310
We had no description.

600
00:31:52,379 --> 00:31:53,724
We had no profile.

601
00:31:53,793 --> 00:31:55,896
We had no idea
what to look for.

602
00:31:55,896 --> 00:31:57,241
I mean, now, you're like,

603
00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:59,517
"Hey, we need to be
more cognizant of areas

604
00:31:59,586 --> 00:32:01,206
where there's elderly women."

605
00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:03,586
I have to go home at night

606
00:32:03,586 --> 00:32:04,965
and not be
in that community,

607
00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:06,482
but other people,
that's where they live,

608
00:32:06,482 --> 00:32:07,965
staying by themselves.

609
00:32:07,965 --> 00:32:11,000
If I was elderly, I would be
feeling very vulnerable.

610
00:32:12,379 --> 00:32:15,034
People were freaked out.

611
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:18,448
We had single, elderly women
huddling together

612
00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:21,517
and sleeping
in each other's homes

613
00:32:21,586 --> 00:32:24,000
because they didn't know
if they were going
to be murdered.

614
00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:26,103
We felt like we were
the prisoners, locked in.

615
00:32:26,103 --> 00:32:27,413
Scary.

616
00:32:28,034 --> 00:32:29,724
Where are your daughters?

617
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,586
While the rest
of her community is on edge,

618
00:32:38,137 --> 00:32:40,068
Dana is riding high,

619
00:32:40,068 --> 00:32:44,068
especially now that she's
feeding her desire to kill.

620
00:32:45,448 --> 00:32:48,758
I would break down the motive
in this case

621
00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,551
in three ways.

622
00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:53,620
One, she wanted to get
her rocks off

623
00:32:53,689 --> 00:32:55,034
and that was a way to do it.

624
00:32:55,034 --> 00:32:59,000
Two, these little old ladies
were like her mother.

625
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,620
Great way to get rid
of that pain

626
00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:02,931
that was just seething
inside of her.

627
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
And, three, she could grab
a little bit of cash.

628
00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:07,965
And there's an element
of the narcissism

629
00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:09,103
and the entitlement

630
00:33:09,103 --> 00:33:10,862
that no one would be able
to catch her

631
00:33:10,862 --> 00:33:14,137
because she so meticulously
committed the crimes.

632
00:33:14,137 --> 00:33:16,724
She didn't leave fingerprints.

633
00:33:18,241 --> 00:33:19,827
She was too good
to be caught.

634
00:33:22,896 --> 00:33:26,689
Dana got into a conversation
with her manicurist

635
00:33:26,689 --> 00:33:29,724
about the crimes
that were scaring

636
00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:31,931
everybody in the local area,

637
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,965
in the retirement community.

638
00:33:33,965 --> 00:33:36,551
Dana says to her,

639
00:33:36,551 --> 00:33:39,931
"I hear they think
it might be a serial killer

640
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,137
from San Diego."

641
00:33:46,448 --> 00:33:51,413
So Dana is trying to inject

642
00:33:51,482 --> 00:33:54,896
an alternative hypothesis

643
00:33:54,896 --> 00:33:58,482
about who the killer might be.

644
00:33:59,896 --> 00:34:02,448
Dana has already
murdered two women,

645
00:34:02,448 --> 00:34:04,931
but she can't get enough,

646
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,413
so now she's on the hunt
for a third.

647
00:34:07,482 --> 00:34:10,862
This time, she decides
to switch things up,

648
00:34:10,862 --> 00:34:14,931
targeting a complete stranger
in the next town over.

649
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,068
Dana saw a very quiet
antique store.

650
00:34:19,068 --> 00:34:22,379
An antique store
is a good, easy target.

651
00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:25,172
She carries a cord,

652
00:34:25,172 --> 00:34:28,586
a yellow plastic
woven cord that

653
00:34:28,586 --> 00:34:31,344
she must have had it
in her purse.

654
00:34:31,344 --> 00:34:35,103
She brought a weapon with her
that she wanted to use

655
00:34:35,103 --> 00:34:37,275
and that she knew how to use.

656
00:34:38,379 --> 00:34:40,827
Dana approaches
the store clerk,

657
00:34:40,896 --> 00:34:44,344
57-year-old Dorinda Hawkins.

658
00:34:44,344 --> 00:34:48,551
They're looking for
a killer of elderly women.

659
00:34:48,551 --> 00:34:50,931
So this would throw
the police off the trace,

660
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,137
but also give Dana
the capacity to still kill

661
00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:56,586
and get the stimulation

662
00:34:56,586 --> 00:34:58,793
she is now
falling in love with.

663
00:35:00,862 --> 00:35:05,000
She is purporting
to buy frames

664
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,931
for her mother's photos.

665
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:11,689
I think
it's an easy story to tell.

666
00:35:11,689 --> 00:35:14,000
My beauty queen mother.

667
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,241
Everybody wants to frame
a picture of their mother,

668
00:35:17,241 --> 00:35:19,310
especially
of their dead mother.

669
00:35:19,379 --> 00:35:22,379
It's going to draw emotions
from Dorinda.

670
00:35:22,379 --> 00:35:23,931
She's not gonna question her.

671
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
She won't be on guard.

672
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,137
And she can easily
then move into the next stage

673
00:35:29,137 --> 00:35:30,344
of killing her.

674
00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:36,000
But she didn't like everything
that Dorinda showed her.

675
00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:39,241
She said that Dorinda

676
00:35:39,241 --> 00:35:42,931
seemed to be thinking
of herself

677
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,689
as somehow better than Dana.

678
00:35:46,275 --> 00:35:48,931
Dorinda upset her.

679
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,517
That becomes her excuse

680
00:35:52,586 --> 00:35:55,586
that whatever happens

681
00:35:56,482 --> 00:35:59,448
can be used to say

682
00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:02,000
it happened because of this.

683
00:36:04,586 --> 00:36:08,000
And at a point,
Dorinda is bent down,

684
00:36:08,068 --> 00:36:10,620
trying to retrieve
an object...

685
00:36:12,655 --> 00:36:15,896
that she feels the cord
around her neck.

686
00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:40,827
The third victim is the one
that really shows you

687
00:36:40,896 --> 00:36:43,000
the mind of Dana Gray.

688
00:36:43,655 --> 00:36:45,413
What led me
to believe that

689
00:36:45,482 --> 00:36:47,793
she knew what she was doing,

690
00:36:47,793 --> 00:36:53,068
she came in saying to Dorinda,

691
00:36:53,655 --> 00:36:56,517
"You're here alone again."

692
00:36:57,241 --> 00:37:01,068
She may have surveyed
that store before.

693
00:37:01,068 --> 00:37:04,034
She knew Dorinda was alone

694
00:37:04,034 --> 00:37:08,000
and she had the weapon
in her purse,

695
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,551
and so this is premeditation.

696
00:37:11,551 --> 00:37:13,793
I think it was just easy
for her.

697
00:37:13,793 --> 00:37:15,827
It was easy to kill.

698
00:37:15,896 --> 00:37:18,000
And now you've got
Norma Davis

699
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,379
who was killed with an object

700
00:37:20,379 --> 00:37:23,413
that was
from within the house.

701
00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:27,620
Then June Roberts was killed
with an object from the house.

702
00:37:29,068 --> 00:37:30,551
Then the killer switches up.

703
00:37:30,551 --> 00:37:34,103
She switches up
and she brings her own cord.

704
00:37:38,551 --> 00:37:40,689
Unlike the other victims,

705
00:37:40,689 --> 00:37:44,310
Dorinda was only
57 years old.

706
00:37:44,379 --> 00:37:46,379
The others were much older

707
00:37:46,379 --> 00:37:49,931
and could put up
less of a fight,

708
00:37:50,689 --> 00:37:53,517
but Dorinda fought
for her life.

709
00:37:55,275 --> 00:37:58,000
She ended up grabbing hold

710
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,068
of a table leg on the floor

711
00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:02,620
when she was down

712
00:38:02,689 --> 00:38:06,896
trying to separate herself
from Dana.

713
00:38:08,896 --> 00:38:10,275
During the strangling,

714
00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:12,827
Dorinda Hawkins is begging
for her life.

715
00:38:12,896 --> 00:38:14,068
She's saying,
"Just let me live.

716
00:38:14,068 --> 00:38:16,103
I have eight kids.
Just let me live.

717
00:38:16,896 --> 00:38:18,413
Take anything.

718
00:38:18,482 --> 00:38:19,620
You can have whatever
you want in the store.

719
00:38:19,689 --> 00:38:21,482
Just take it."

720
00:38:21,482 --> 00:38:22,862
And Dana tells her,

721
00:38:22,862 --> 00:38:24,689
"I'm not doing this
for the money."

722
00:38:26,172 --> 00:38:29,344
Here,
she's trying to differentiate

723
00:38:29,344 --> 00:38:32,517
this killing from the others

724
00:38:32,586 --> 00:38:35,482
where she took credit cards.

725
00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:38,482
So she is thinking about

726
00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:41,758
how this crime needs
to look different.

727
00:38:41,758 --> 00:38:45,413
I believe that's what
triggered this crime,

728
00:38:45,482 --> 00:38:48,862
that she needed
to create a pattern

729
00:38:48,862 --> 00:38:51,241
that would throw
the police off.

730
00:38:52,448 --> 00:38:55,551
I think
that the reason why
she switched up with Dorinda

731
00:38:55,551 --> 00:38:57,137
was because she was reading

732
00:38:57,137 --> 00:38:58,896
what was being put
in the paper

733
00:38:58,896 --> 00:39:00,482
and maybe
a little too much information

734
00:39:00,482 --> 00:39:01,827
was being put out there.

735
00:39:03,586 --> 00:39:08,275
Dorinda fights back
as Dana tries to soothe her.

736
00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:10,586
While Dana is strangling
this woman,

737
00:39:10,586 --> 00:39:13,896
she says, "Relax, just relax."

738
00:39:15,689 --> 00:39:17,482
Dana worked
as a surgical nurse,

739
00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:21,068
so it is very likely
that she was desensitized

740
00:39:21,068 --> 00:39:23,482
to people screaming in pain

741
00:39:23,482 --> 00:39:25,620
because she would say to them,

742
00:39:25,689 --> 00:39:28,517
"Relax, just relax."

743
00:39:34,551 --> 00:39:37,000
So now she's in the face
of Dorinda.

744
00:39:37,068 --> 00:39:39,344
Dorinda is flailing
and screaming.

745
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:42,000
And Dana is likely
so desensitized,

746
00:39:42,068 --> 00:39:43,413
she says the same words,

747
00:39:43,482 --> 00:39:46,275
"Relax, just relax,"

748
00:39:46,275 --> 00:39:49,000
while brutally attempting
to murder her.

749
00:39:50,379 --> 00:39:54,068
And it amazes me that
in the face of this torment,

750
00:39:54,068 --> 00:39:55,896
this torture,

751
00:39:55,896 --> 00:39:58,275
Dana is calm
and asking someone

752
00:39:58,275 --> 00:40:02,137
about to be dead
to stay calm too.

753
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:05,379
After Dorinda passes out,

754
00:40:05,379 --> 00:40:08,862
Dana then takes $5
out of Dorinda's purse

755
00:40:08,862 --> 00:40:11,241
and $25 out of the register.

756
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:16,931
But I think
there's a deeper why to that.

757
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,689
And it's that she was
retaliating in some way.

758
00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:22,620
So this is a woman
who was raised

759
00:40:22,689 --> 00:40:24,689
in an extremely wealthy area

760
00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:26,931
with a very
narcissistic mother.

761
00:40:28,586 --> 00:40:30,931
She was at a point
in her life,

762
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,103
before these murders,

763
00:40:32,103 --> 00:40:34,724
where she had lost
all of her money.

764
00:40:36,275 --> 00:40:38,758
I think that when she took
those small bits of money,

765
00:40:38,758 --> 00:40:42,000
it was an extra "you"
to the victims.

766
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,724
It was an extra "you"
to her mother.

767
00:40:45,275 --> 00:40:47,000
Dana takes one last look

768
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,241
at Dorinda's lifeless body
on the floor,

769
00:40:50,241 --> 00:40:52,724
then hurries
out of the antique shop.

770
00:40:53,586 --> 00:40:57,862
And I think she left sooner
than she might have

771
00:40:57,862 --> 00:41:00,896
for fear that somebody
would come in.

772
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,689
And Dorinda Hawkins comes to
two hours later.

773
00:41:10,482 --> 00:41:13,482
For the first time during
her terrifying murder spree,

774
00:41:13,482 --> 00:41:16,172
Gray has left behind
a witness.

775
00:41:16,172 --> 00:41:18,413
But despite the fact
that there's finally someone

776
00:41:18,482 --> 00:41:19,896
who could identify her,

777
00:41:19,896 --> 00:41:21,620
she continues to seek out

778
00:41:21,689 --> 00:41:24,068
and murder victims
in cold blood.

779
00:41:24,068 --> 00:41:27,413
The urge to kill has
stimulated her with excitement

780
00:41:27,482 --> 00:41:31,000
and she won't rest
until she satisfies it again.

781
00:41:44,655 --> 00:41:46,517
Following
the gruesome murders

782
00:41:46,586 --> 00:41:48,896
of Norma Davis
and June Roberts,

783
00:41:50,172 --> 00:41:54,241
the gated community
of Canyon Lake is on edge.

784
00:41:54,241 --> 00:41:57,379
But police haven't yet
connected these two murders

785
00:41:57,379 --> 00:41:59,379
to the attack
on Dorinda Hawkins

786
00:41:59,379 --> 00:42:01,000
in the neighboring town.

787
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,827
Canyon Lake was...

788
00:42:02,896 --> 00:42:04,827
It was like
the Night Stalker out here.

789
00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:06,827
I remember what it was like

790
00:42:06,896 --> 00:42:08,655
when we had
the Night Stalker here.

791
00:42:08,655 --> 00:42:10,931
Nobody wanted to leave
their windows open

792
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,103
'cause that's how the guy
was getting in

793
00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:13,413
and killing people.

794
00:42:13,482 --> 00:42:16,000
And it was the same way
for this.

795
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,344
No idea who it was
and who was gonna be next

796
00:42:19,344 --> 00:42:21,379
and why
they were being killed.

797
00:42:21,379 --> 00:42:24,137
After the second homicide,

798
00:42:24,137 --> 00:42:25,896
I remember going to a call,

799
00:42:25,896 --> 00:42:27,275
I knock on the door
and nothing happens,

800
00:42:27,275 --> 00:42:28,689
I knock on the door
and nothing happens.

801
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,827
Go up one more time

802
00:42:30,896 --> 00:42:32,068
and if someone
is standing there

803
00:42:32,068 --> 00:42:33,620
with a gun pointed at me,

804
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,344
you know, you're gonna get
in a shootout

805
00:42:37,344 --> 00:42:41,000
with just some person
who's really nervous

806
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000
because people are being found
dead in their community.

807
00:42:44,758 --> 00:42:46,310
Everybody's worried.

808
00:42:46,379 --> 00:42:49,068
The press
is blowing up the phones,

809
00:42:49,068 --> 00:42:51,551
people are calling in and...

810
00:42:51,551 --> 00:42:54,758
Any suspicious activity,
any suspicious person

811
00:42:54,758 --> 00:42:58,275
is being called
into the... To the station.

812
00:42:58,275 --> 00:43:01,931
We had to assign
a community service officer

813
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,482
because it was just
overwhelming.

814
00:43:03,482 --> 00:43:08,310
He was writing down names
of people calling in tips

815
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,793
and then we would have
to go back

816
00:43:10,793 --> 00:43:14,965
and kind of follow up
on those tips later.

817
00:43:14,965 --> 00:43:18,068
This is a belt
of communities from Sun City

818
00:43:18,068 --> 00:43:20,724
to Canyon Lake
to Lake Elsinore,

819
00:43:20,793 --> 00:43:24,000
and there's a lot
of older people,

820
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,620
older populations
in all three communities,

821
00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:29,310
and they felt very vulnerable.

822
00:43:29,793 --> 00:43:32,000
They banded together and...

823
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,689
There were all kinds
of rumors going around.

824
00:43:34,689 --> 00:43:37,068
There was rumors
it was a serial killer,

825
00:43:37,068 --> 00:43:40,000
there was rumors
that it was a man,

826
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,551
and there was rumors that

827
00:43:41,551 --> 00:43:43,689
it was somebody
that knew all these people.

828
00:43:43,689 --> 00:43:46,655
It was on everybody's lips.

829
00:43:46,655 --> 00:43:50,000
You couldn't go anywhere
without people
talking about it.

830
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,586
I just think
that people were scared.

831
00:43:52,793 --> 00:43:54,172
They were afraid.

832
00:43:55,482 --> 00:43:57,827
And they were right
to be afraid.

833
00:43:57,896 --> 00:44:01,413
Detective Greco knows
if he doesn't act fast,

834
00:44:01,482 --> 00:44:04,758
another unsuspecting member
of this tight-knit community

835
00:44:04,758 --> 00:44:06,896
is going to die.

836
00:44:06,896 --> 00:44:09,413
I didn't wanna let
anybody down, really.

837
00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:10,586
It was... It was heavy.

838
00:44:10,586 --> 00:44:11,724
It was a heavy weight.

839
00:44:11,793 --> 00:44:12,689
Yeah.

840
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,655
I was so immersed

841
00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:16,137
in trying to find out
who the suspect was.

842
00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:20,103
I was constantly thinking
about who did this,

843
00:44:20,103 --> 00:44:21,551
and where they live.

844
00:44:21,551 --> 00:44:24,517
It had to be somebody
from the community.

845
00:44:24,586 --> 00:44:28,137
When you think about
the way that the police work,

846
00:44:28,137 --> 00:44:30,310
pretty much
everyone is a suspect

847
00:44:30,379 --> 00:44:32,344
until they've proved
that they're not.

848
00:44:32,344 --> 00:44:34,103
Especially when they think
that somebody

849
00:44:34,103 --> 00:44:37,413
that the person
actually knew,

850
00:44:37,482 --> 00:44:40,517
they're gonna have to look
at all the immediate family,

851
00:44:40,586 --> 00:44:43,379
look at all of
her close friends and whatnot,

852
00:44:43,379 --> 00:44:47,172
and rule every one of them out
one at a time.

853
00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:49,862
This was a gated community.

854
00:44:49,862 --> 00:44:53,000
Security was protecting
the gates in and out,

855
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,724
but it didn't mean
you couldn't...

856
00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:56,344
You couldn't climb the fence

857
00:44:56,344 --> 00:45:00,000
or go through,
you know, the drainage

858
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,586
to get into the community.

859
00:45:01,586 --> 00:45:04,000
But we did consider somebody

860
00:45:04,068 --> 00:45:05,896
who may have lived
in that area,

861
00:45:05,896 --> 00:45:07,482
knew the area.

862
00:45:08,379 --> 00:45:11,172
But we also looked
at maintenance workers.

863
00:45:12,137 --> 00:45:16,793
I think there was a gardener
that had seen a woman that...

864
00:45:16,793 --> 00:45:20,275
Shortly within that time
period of Norma Davis' murder

865
00:45:20,896 --> 00:45:22,793
just walking around with a...

866
00:45:22,793 --> 00:45:24,482
Like a blank stare
on her face.

867
00:45:24,482 --> 00:45:26,896
He wasn't really able to give
a good description though,

868
00:45:26,896 --> 00:45:28,241
of this person.

869
00:45:30,034 --> 00:45:31,896
As police in Lake Elsinore

870
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,448
wait for Dorinda Hawkins
to recover enough

871
00:45:34,448 --> 00:45:36,068
to give a clear statement,

872
00:45:36,068 --> 00:45:38,586
Detective Greco
chases down leads

873
00:45:38,586 --> 00:45:40,379
in the Canyon Lake murders,

874
00:45:40,379 --> 00:45:44,034
not realizing they're looking
for the same killer.

875
00:45:44,034 --> 00:45:46,793
At the search
of June Roberts' house,

876
00:45:46,793 --> 00:45:48,655
one of the items
that was missing

877
00:45:48,655 --> 00:45:51,103
was a checkbook
and credit cards.

878
00:45:52,379 --> 00:45:54,103
So there were three of us

879
00:45:54,103 --> 00:45:55,931
who are
kind of working our way

880
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
through this investigation
on the credit card usage.

881
00:45:59,862 --> 00:46:01,724
And we started seeing
that the credit cards

882
00:46:01,793 --> 00:46:03,724
were being used
in various locations.

883
00:46:05,103 --> 00:46:07,000
The date
the credit cards were used

884
00:46:07,068 --> 00:46:11,482
was on February 28th, 1994,
right after June was killed.

885
00:46:12,586 --> 00:46:15,793
The credit cards
were used at a bistro,

886
00:46:15,793 --> 00:46:17,620
at a jewelry store,

887
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,655
and a hair salon.

888
00:46:21,655 --> 00:46:24,379
As we were going
to different locations,

889
00:46:24,379 --> 00:46:29,344
we kept getting information
that it was a female

890
00:46:29,344 --> 00:46:33,137
around 5'6" with blonde hair

891
00:46:33,137 --> 00:46:36,482
and she had a little boy
with her about age five

892
00:46:36,482 --> 00:46:38,931
and he had blond hair
as well.

893
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,344
Then the hair salon,
she went in there

894
00:46:41,344 --> 00:46:44,931
and I believe she wanted
to get her hair dyed red.

895
00:46:46,068 --> 00:46:49,793
And then a boy
had his hair cut as well.

896
00:46:49,793 --> 00:46:52,275
The stylist remembered
a conversation

897
00:46:52,275 --> 00:46:53,655
that she had with the boy.

898
00:46:53,655 --> 00:46:55,827
And the boy said,
"That's my other mommy."

899
00:46:57,586 --> 00:46:58,965
So I knew I was looking

900
00:46:58,965 --> 00:47:03,379
at a potential step-mom
situation in that case.

901
00:47:03,965 --> 00:47:06,172
So I asked the stylist,
I said,

902
00:47:06,172 --> 00:47:09,000
"Did you happen to get
the boy's name?"

903
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,137
And she goes,
"Yeah, I wrote it down
in my appointment book."

904
00:47:13,586 --> 00:47:15,310
And I took that as evidence.

905
00:47:21,482 --> 00:47:24,172
I got a phone call
one day from Joe Greco.

906
00:47:25,655 --> 00:47:29,310
And he said,
"Jeri, I want to inform you,

907
00:47:29,379 --> 00:47:30,655
since you've asked me,

908
00:47:30,655 --> 00:47:34,241
we don't have any other
information about Norma.

909
00:47:35,758 --> 00:47:38,068
But we do have
some things about...

910
00:47:38,586 --> 00:47:40,413
June Roberts.

911
00:47:40,482 --> 00:47:43,620
We know that the person
who killed her

912
00:47:43,689 --> 00:47:45,482
took her credit cards

913
00:47:46,379 --> 00:47:50,413
and went to shop
at several different places.

914
00:47:50,482 --> 00:47:53,310
And one of the places
she went to was a beauty shop

915
00:47:53,379 --> 00:47:55,275
where she had
her hair styled."

916
00:47:56,896 --> 00:47:58,310
So it was a woman.

917
00:47:58,655 --> 00:47:59,758
That was a shock.

918
00:48:00,689 --> 00:48:03,310
We still felt that
there was some connections

919
00:48:03,379 --> 00:48:05,000
to our community.

920
00:48:05,689 --> 00:48:07,827
We drove around Canyon Lake

921
00:48:07,896 --> 00:48:12,758
to see if we could find
any random women driving.

922
00:48:12,758 --> 00:48:16,931
Russell kept his loaded gun
by his bed.

923
00:48:18,482 --> 00:48:21,000
My mom told me
that it was a woman,

924
00:48:21,068 --> 00:48:22,827
and I thought, wow.

925
00:48:22,896 --> 00:48:25,137
I always figured
it was a man doing this

926
00:48:25,137 --> 00:48:26,689
just because
it was so violent.

927
00:48:39,793 --> 00:48:42,344
The second I heard
it was a woman,

928
00:48:42,344 --> 00:48:47,103
it's like someone basically
was talking in my head

929
00:48:47,103 --> 00:48:48,517
and they said, "It's Dana."

930
00:48:49,482 --> 00:48:51,344
A light went off.

931
00:48:51,344 --> 00:48:53,482
Dana makes
the most sense of all.

932
00:48:53,482 --> 00:48:57,862
She knew my nana,
and she definitely knew June,

933
00:48:57,862 --> 00:49:01,379
but I can't come out and say,
"Mom, I think it's Dana,"

934
00:49:01,379 --> 00:49:04,379
because I didn't have
any more proof at that point.

935
00:49:04,379 --> 00:49:06,103
It's Russell's daughter.

936
00:49:06,103 --> 00:49:07,724
I mean...

937
00:49:07,793 --> 00:49:10,896
how can I accuse Russell's
daughter of something?

938
00:49:10,896 --> 00:49:12,689
A picture of the suspect

939
00:49:12,689 --> 00:49:15,379
comes into focus
for Detective Greco

940
00:49:15,379 --> 00:49:18,379
as Lake Elsinore Police
and the media

941
00:49:18,379 --> 00:49:21,448
question Dorinda Hawkins
about her attack.

942
00:49:21,448 --> 00:49:22,862
I looked
directly in her eyes,

943
00:49:22,862 --> 00:49:24,758
there was no emotion,

944
00:49:24,758 --> 00:49:29,000
no anger, no being mad.
Nothing.

945
00:49:29,068 --> 00:49:31,517
It was just a dead,
cold stare.

946
00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,896
Dorinda Hawkins

947
00:49:33,896 --> 00:49:37,000
described the woman
as heavy-set,

948
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,344
blonde-ish hair.

949
00:49:39,689 --> 00:49:43,310
What stood out the most
from my interview with...

950
00:49:43,379 --> 00:49:48,413
Dorinda was she was told
just to relax.

951
00:49:50,275 --> 00:49:53,862
Because it's what
a caregiver would say

952
00:49:53,862 --> 00:49:57,000
to calm somebody who is...

953
00:49:57,655 --> 00:50:00,931
stressed out
over a frightful situation.

954
00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:09,862
The police
did a composite sketch

955
00:50:09,862 --> 00:50:12,103
based on the description

956
00:50:12,103 --> 00:50:15,310
that Dorinda Hawkins
gave to them.

957
00:50:16,103 --> 00:50:18,310
We did see
the newspaper article

958
00:50:18,379 --> 00:50:22,275
and the sketch
of the suspect in that case

959
00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:25,310
and somebody brought it
to my attention.

960
00:50:26,344 --> 00:50:27,724
I considered the fact

961
00:50:27,793 --> 00:50:30,000
that because
of these two homicides

962
00:50:30,068 --> 00:50:31,379
and the short period of time

963
00:50:31,379 --> 00:50:34,000
within the attack
on Dorinda Hawkins

964
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,241
that they could be connected.

965
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,068
Two murders and one attack

966
00:50:42,068 --> 00:50:43,586
all in under a month.

967
00:50:43,586 --> 00:50:46,724
But Dana Sue Gray has no idea

968
00:50:46,793 --> 00:50:49,793
that police could soon
be closing in on her.

969
00:50:49,793 --> 00:50:51,758
Her boyfriend at
the time begins to question

970
00:50:51,758 --> 00:50:55,551
where she's getting money
to buy all these goods

971
00:50:55,551 --> 00:50:57,379
and she says
that a family member

972
00:50:57,379 --> 00:50:58,862
had sent her the money.

973
00:50:58,862 --> 00:51:00,620
She also reassured him saying,

974
00:51:00,689 --> 00:51:02,689
"Don't worry,
more money will come."

975
00:51:04,034 --> 00:51:06,000
What that tells me was

976
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
that she was onto something.

977
00:51:08,689 --> 00:51:11,034
And she was enjoying
the killing.

978
00:51:11,034 --> 00:51:14,241
This was just the beginning
for Dana Sue Gray.

979
00:51:28,275 --> 00:51:30,241
After finding out
who the suspect

980
00:51:30,241 --> 00:51:31,310
could possibly be,

981
00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:33,586
the first thing I did
was I started to look

982
00:51:33,586 --> 00:51:35,310
at the...
At the name of the boy

983
00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:37,862
and I started looking at all
the different public schools

984
00:51:37,862 --> 00:51:39,655
to see if I could find
a name that matched.

985
00:51:39,655 --> 00:51:41,655
And I did.
I found one name that matched.

986
00:51:44,137 --> 00:51:46,482
We did a stakeout
on the house.

987
00:51:48,034 --> 00:51:49,965
The lady came home.

988
00:51:52,965 --> 00:51:54,896
We realized she did not fit

989
00:51:54,896 --> 00:51:58,379
the description of the suspect

990
00:51:58,379 --> 00:52:01,275
so we felt that we're going
in the wrong direction

991
00:52:01,275 --> 00:52:03,413
with that name.

992
00:52:03,413 --> 00:52:05,344
What Greco thought
could be the key

993
00:52:05,344 --> 00:52:07,034
to solving the case

994
00:52:07,034 --> 00:52:09,000
turns out to be a dead end.

995
00:52:09,068 --> 00:52:10,862
And without any new leads...

996
00:52:11,655 --> 00:52:14,551
he takes a fresh look
at old ones.

997
00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:20,000
I was continuously
going back to Jeri's house

998
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,551
to get more information

999
00:52:21,551 --> 00:52:23,551
just to see if there was
something that I missed,

1000
00:52:23,551 --> 00:52:25,896
something that I could have
figured out.

1001
00:52:26,448 --> 00:52:28,482
And she was just so helpful.

1002
00:52:28,482 --> 00:52:30,000
Every time I asked her
for something,

1003
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,241
she gave it to me.

1004
00:52:32,137 --> 00:52:35,172
I felt very fortunate
that Joe had decided

1005
00:52:35,172 --> 00:52:36,896
I was no longer a suspect,

1006
00:52:36,896 --> 00:52:38,793
but that I could be an ally.

1007
00:52:39,758 --> 00:52:41,551
So I started to feel
more comfortable

1008
00:52:41,551 --> 00:52:43,448
with giving her
more and more information.

1009
00:52:43,448 --> 00:52:46,000
So I started sharing
what I knew

1010
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,793
about the suspect
I was looking for.

1011
00:52:49,551 --> 00:52:53,689
I gave her the description
of white female, in her 30s,

1012
00:52:53,689 --> 00:52:57,965
blonde hair, recently cut,
possibly dyed red.

1013
00:52:57,965 --> 00:53:00,413
And she has
a five-year-old boy with her

1014
00:53:00,413 --> 00:53:03,275
that also has a recent
haircut blond hair.

1015
00:53:05,827 --> 00:53:08,103
And I asked her
if that matched, you know,

1016
00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:10,551
the description of somebody
that she knew.

1017
00:53:12,275 --> 00:53:14,310
She didn't come right out
and say, you know,

1018
00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:15,344
"No, absolutely not."

1019
00:53:15,344 --> 00:53:17,655
She just kind of
just hesitated and said no.

1020
00:53:20,793 --> 00:53:22,103
We didn't have any indication

1021
00:53:22,103 --> 00:53:24,000
that it could be
anyone we knew.

1022
00:53:25,793 --> 00:53:27,517
I don't think Jeri
made the connection

1023
00:53:27,517 --> 00:53:29,931
because it was too obscene.

1024
00:53:30,655 --> 00:53:32,689
The crimes were so horrific

1025
00:53:32,689 --> 00:53:34,379
that anyone would struggle

1026
00:53:34,379 --> 00:53:37,000
to think it was somebody
in their life

1027
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,724
or that they had been around.

1028
00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:52,000
Dana came to see us

1029
00:53:53,241 --> 00:53:55,137
and she was very happy.

1030
00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:58,241
She said, "Oh, Jeri, look,

1031
00:53:58,241 --> 00:54:00,724
look at my new red hair.

1032
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,551
Ta-da."

1033
00:54:07,965 --> 00:54:10,137
That sort of took me aback.

1034
00:54:10,137 --> 00:54:11,827
I didn't know
really what to say.

1035
00:54:12,965 --> 00:54:15,965
So I said, "Okay.
It looks great. Come on in."

1036
00:54:16,793 --> 00:54:19,000
And she came in into the den

1037
00:54:19,068 --> 00:54:21,310
and we just sat there
talking.

1038
00:54:21,310 --> 00:54:25,000
And during the conversation,
she said, "By the way,

1039
00:54:25,068 --> 00:54:27,620
I now get to have a boy
call me mom.

1040
00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:29,482
Isn't that great?"

1041
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,758
I said,
"He's calling you mom?"

1042
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
I knew she wanted
to be a mom,

1043
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,551
so it didn't surprise me,

1044
00:54:38,551 --> 00:54:41,413
but red hair and a son?

1045
00:54:42,344 --> 00:54:45,137
It was in my mind
and I couldn't believe it.

1046
00:54:48,655 --> 00:54:50,620
My mom, at that point,
looked at her

1047
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:51,965
and I don't know how

1048
00:54:51,965 --> 00:54:54,000
she didn't just freak out
right then and there,

1049
00:54:54,758 --> 00:54:57,689
but somehow she kept it
together enough.

1050
00:54:59,241 --> 00:55:01,758
I could hardly wait
for her to leave.

1051
00:55:04,448 --> 00:55:07,034
I went across the street
to my friend

1052
00:55:07,034 --> 00:55:11,793
and asked her
for a copy of the newspaper

1053
00:55:11,793 --> 00:55:14,137
because there was supposed
to be a sketch

1054
00:55:14,137 --> 00:55:18,310
in that newspaper of
the person doing the murders.

1055
00:55:18,310 --> 00:55:21,655
I looked at the picture
again and again.

1056
00:55:22,655 --> 00:55:25,655
I could finally see
a tiny resemblance

1057
00:55:25,655 --> 00:55:27,655
that could be Dana,

1058
00:55:27,655 --> 00:55:29,862
but I still couldn't quite
believe it.

1059
00:55:32,896 --> 00:55:35,000
I didn't sleep all night.

1060
00:55:35,689 --> 00:55:36,896
All I can think of was...

1061
00:55:37,896 --> 00:55:41,413
these things go together
like a puzzle.

1062
00:55:53,793 --> 00:55:56,000
So the next day,
I went to work.

1063
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,413
A few minutes later,
Bob arrived.

1064
00:55:58,413 --> 00:56:00,103
Well, she came in
and asked me

1065
00:56:00,103 --> 00:56:02,689
some questions about Dana.

1066
00:56:02,689 --> 00:56:05,137
Before I even answered,
I said, "It's Dana, isn't it?

1067
00:56:07,068 --> 00:56:08,655
It's Dana."

1068
00:56:09,827 --> 00:56:12,034
He looked at me and he said,

1069
00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:14,068
"She did it, didn't she?
It's her.

1070
00:56:14,275 --> 00:56:15,793
I knew it.

1071
00:56:15,793 --> 00:56:17,827
I knew it.
I should have told you."

1072
00:56:21,206 --> 00:56:24,793
And I said, "Okay.
I have just one thing to do."

1073
00:56:34,103 --> 00:56:37,655
I get a phone call
and it's Jeri on the phone.

1074
00:56:38,068 --> 00:56:39,517
And I said, "Joe...

1075
00:56:40,344 --> 00:56:42,206
I believe
I know who the murderer is."

1076
00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:50,000
As shocking as it is
to imagine,

1077
00:56:50,068 --> 00:56:52,206
Jeri is convinced
her stepdaughter Dana

1078
00:56:52,206 --> 00:56:54,482
fits the description
of the killer.

1079
00:56:54,482 --> 00:56:55,758
Even so,

1080
00:56:55,758 --> 00:56:57,793
Detective Greco is a long way

1081
00:56:57,793 --> 00:57:00,068
from being able
to make an arrest

1082
00:57:00,068 --> 00:57:02,448
until he can put a stop
to Dana's havoc,

1083
00:57:02,448 --> 00:57:04,379
no one is safe.

1084
00:57:18,793 --> 00:57:21,068
Jeri said, "I thought about
what you said last night.

1085
00:57:21,068 --> 00:57:23,931
It sounds a lot
like my stepdaughter."

1086
00:57:25,862 --> 00:57:29,379
And I proceeded to tell him
about the red hair...

1087
00:57:29,896 --> 00:57:31,758
the blond boy.

1088
00:57:33,517 --> 00:57:35,793
The red hair alone
didn't bother me.

1089
00:57:35,793 --> 00:57:39,379
It was when she said
that the little boy

1090
00:57:39,379 --> 00:57:41,517
could call her mom,

1091
00:57:41,517 --> 00:57:45,206
that the red hair
and the boy clicked together.

1092
00:57:46,517 --> 00:57:48,000
I said, "It all fits."

1093
00:57:50,724 --> 00:57:52,896
He said, "Well,
there's one thing missing.

1094
00:57:54,241 --> 00:57:55,724
What's the little boy's
name?"

1095
00:57:57,620 --> 00:57:59,206
I needed to know the name

1096
00:57:59,206 --> 00:58:00,793
to be able to match it up

1097
00:58:00,793 --> 00:58:03,000
with the name
in the appointment book

1098
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,689
from the salon.

1099
00:58:04,689 --> 00:58:07,655
When I repeated
the name to Joe...

1100
00:58:08,344 --> 00:58:11,000
he said, "It's a lock."

1101
00:58:14,551 --> 00:58:17,379
Those three words
stick with me until this day.

1102
00:58:19,310 --> 00:58:21,586
I was hoping I was wrong.

1103
00:58:21,586 --> 00:58:23,344
You'd never believe
something like that

1104
00:58:23,344 --> 00:58:25,655
could happen in your family,

1105
00:58:25,655 --> 00:58:28,827
but it's frightening how
she could attack these women.

1106
00:58:30,965 --> 00:58:32,896
Joe told me
that he'd let me know

1107
00:58:32,896 --> 00:58:35,206
as soon as they had Dana
in custody.

1108
00:58:36,206 --> 00:58:37,655
And so I went home.

1109
00:58:39,551 --> 00:58:41,310
However, Jeri's son, Bob,

1110
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:43,379
is terrified for her.

1111
00:58:43,379 --> 00:58:45,620
You have no idea
how much I did not her...

1112
00:58:45,620 --> 00:58:47,034
Want her going home.

1113
00:58:47,034 --> 00:58:48,689
I told her,
"No, you need to stay.

1114
00:58:48,689 --> 00:58:49,896
I'm gonna go home with you."

1115
00:58:49,896 --> 00:58:51,103
And she says, "No, you're not.

1116
00:58:51,103 --> 00:58:53,793
I have to go home
and tell Russell."

1117
00:58:53,793 --> 00:58:56,655
Even though I told my son Bob
that I was fine

1118
00:58:56,655 --> 00:58:59,931
and I didn't want him
to come home with me,

1119
00:58:59,931 --> 00:59:03,034
I could just imagine
Dana coming after me.

1120
00:59:03,034 --> 00:59:04,655
I was scared to death.

1121
00:59:07,517 --> 00:59:09,000
At this point, Dana was...

1122
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,793
quickly becoming comfortable
with killing.

1123
00:59:11,793 --> 00:59:13,793
The retaliation
didn't necessarily need

1124
00:59:13,793 --> 00:59:16,206
to fall on strangers.

1125
00:59:16,206 --> 00:59:18,379
It may have become
more focused on people

1126
00:59:18,379 --> 00:59:23,034
she directly felt hatred
towards, which was Jeri.

1127
00:59:23,034 --> 00:59:26,206
So I went home,
I got Russell's gun,

1128
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,103
put my dog on a leash,
and waited.

1129
00:59:31,413 --> 00:59:33,482
I kept an eye on the two doors

1130
00:59:33,482 --> 00:59:35,793
that you could enter
from the street.

1131
00:59:36,827 --> 00:59:39,344
They were both locked,
but she had a key.

1132
00:59:40,206 --> 00:59:42,344
So if she came through
one door,

1133
00:59:42,344 --> 00:59:44,241
I was gonna run out the other.

1134
00:59:44,241 --> 00:59:46,379
And if I couldn't get out,

1135
00:59:46,379 --> 00:59:48,862
last choice
would have been the gun.

1136
00:59:52,344 --> 00:59:54,586
Luckily for me,
she didn't come,

1137
00:59:55,793 --> 00:59:57,344
and Russell did.

1138
00:59:59,344 --> 01:00:01,965
And then I had
the biggest job of all,

1139
01:00:02,413 --> 01:00:04,482
I had to tell Russ.

1140
01:00:07,068 --> 01:00:09,724
I can't imagine
how that conversation went.

1141
01:00:09,724 --> 01:00:11,655
To think that you're gonna
tell your husband

1142
01:00:11,655 --> 01:00:14,965
that his daughter
is the serial killer

1143
01:00:14,965 --> 01:00:17,275
that's killing
not only random people,

1144
01:00:17,275 --> 01:00:20,586
killing two people
they knew, brutally.

1145
01:00:21,068 --> 01:00:23,448
I don't know how she did it.

1146
01:00:23,448 --> 01:00:27,206
I said,
"Russ, I discovered
who the murderer is."

1147
01:00:28,172 --> 01:00:30,137
And he said, "Who is it?"

1148
01:00:32,758 --> 01:00:35,137
And I said, "It was Dana."

1149
01:00:37,655 --> 01:00:41,241
He just looked at me.
He didn't believe me.

1150
01:00:41,241 --> 01:00:46,482
It was totally, uh, something
he could not comprehend.

1151
01:00:47,551 --> 01:00:50,206
And I said, "They are trying
to find Dana now.

1152
01:00:50,206 --> 01:00:52,103
They're trying
to pick her up."

1153
01:00:57,793 --> 01:00:59,896
Back at police headquarters,

1154
01:00:59,896 --> 01:01:03,000
Detective Greco knows
it's only a matter of time

1155
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,103
before Dana will need
to feel the thrill

1156
01:01:05,103 --> 01:01:06,551
of killing again.

1157
01:01:06,551 --> 01:01:08,103
He rushes out
to get a warrant

1158
01:01:08,103 --> 01:01:09,620
to search her house.

1159
01:01:09,620 --> 01:01:11,862
I immediately called
Rich Bentley,

1160
01:01:11,862 --> 01:01:13,344
the DA in this case,

1161
01:01:13,344 --> 01:01:15,931
and I said, "I think
I know who the suspect is."

1162
01:01:15,931 --> 01:01:19,172
I gave Rich all
the information that I had,

1163
01:01:19,172 --> 01:01:22,000
and Rich goes, "I don't think
we have enough."

1164
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,862
And I said,
"Well, I'm gonna write
a search warrant on her house,

1165
01:01:25,862 --> 01:01:28,448
and I'm gonna see
if I can get a search warrant
signed by a judge."

1166
01:01:30,482 --> 01:01:32,103
I write the search warrant.

1167
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,000
I take it to a judge,

1168
01:01:35,655 --> 01:01:38,517
and the judge looks
at my search warrant

1169
01:01:38,517 --> 01:01:39,931
and signs off on it.

1170
01:01:42,344 --> 01:01:45,448
And I think he said something
like, happy hunting.

1171
01:01:45,448 --> 01:01:47,862
So I was excited.
I was excited.

1172
01:01:49,206 --> 01:01:51,586
And in the meantime,

1173
01:01:51,586 --> 01:01:54,724
we set up a task force

1174
01:01:54,724 --> 01:01:56,310
to see if we could find Dana.

1175
01:01:58,172 --> 01:02:01,034
Uh, unfortunately, it was...
It was a little too late.

1176
01:02:11,241 --> 01:02:14,103
As police search
for Dana Sue Gray,

1177
01:02:14,103 --> 01:02:16,620
she's out hunting
for her next victim.

1178
01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,620
This time,
without bringing along

1179
01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:20,517
her boyfriend's
five-year-old son,

1180
01:02:20,517 --> 01:02:25,482
she singles out
87-year-old Dora Beebe.

1181
01:02:28,586 --> 01:02:31,344
Dana was in
a shopping center,

1182
01:02:31,344 --> 01:02:35,793
saw Dora go into a bank,

1183
01:02:35,793 --> 01:02:40,137
and she saw her
leave the bank

1184
01:02:40,137 --> 01:02:42,482
and go home,

1185
01:02:42,482 --> 01:02:45,724
and she followed her
to her home.

1186
01:02:51,724 --> 01:02:55,000
Dana goes
from extended family

1187
01:02:55,551 --> 01:02:59,655
to a close family associate,

1188
01:02:59,655 --> 01:03:02,620
to someone she had cased out

1189
01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:05,068
but did not personally know,

1190
01:03:05,068 --> 01:03:07,000
to a total stranger.

1191
01:03:11,862 --> 01:03:15,379
She goes up to Dora's door

1192
01:03:15,379 --> 01:03:18,793
and pretends that she's lost.

1193
01:03:20,206 --> 01:03:22,413
This seems to have been...

1194
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,172
the ruse she used
to get in the door.

1195
01:03:32,241 --> 01:03:37,068
She brings no weapon
into Dora's house.

1196
01:03:37,068 --> 01:03:41,413
She makes use
of the telephone cord again.

1197
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,137
And this time,

1198
01:03:48,137 --> 01:03:51,862
she makes use of an iron.

1199
01:03:51,862 --> 01:03:56,724
There are different patterns
that killers will use.

1200
01:03:56,724 --> 01:03:59,862
When you start
using household objects,

1201
01:04:00,482 --> 01:04:02,344
in general,

1202
01:04:02,344 --> 01:04:05,586
that's somebody
who is inventing it

1203
01:04:05,586 --> 01:04:08,517
on the fly to some degree.

1204
01:04:09,655 --> 01:04:11,103
Dora Beebe was beaten

1205
01:04:11,103 --> 01:04:14,275
with a clothes iron,
and she was hit so hard

1206
01:04:14,275 --> 01:04:15,586
with the clothes iron

1207
01:04:15,586 --> 01:04:17,724
that it dented
the clothes iron.

1208
01:04:18,793 --> 01:04:20,482
And Dora Beebe
was on the ground

1209
01:04:20,482 --> 01:04:22,931
almost in a defensive posture,

1210
01:04:22,931 --> 01:04:26,172
as if she was trying to block
her face from getting hit.

1211
01:04:29,655 --> 01:04:30,793
There was blood spatter

1212
01:04:30,793 --> 01:04:32,655
that surrounded her
on the walls,

1213
01:04:32,655 --> 01:04:35,793
and there was a bloodied soap
next to the sink,

1214
01:04:35,793 --> 01:04:37,275
which made me think Dana

1215
01:04:37,275 --> 01:04:40,344
may have started
to clean up the scene.

1216
01:04:42,689 --> 01:04:44,931
The murder of Dora Beebe

1217
01:04:44,931 --> 01:04:48,931
shows me that Dana
was getting more into this.

1218
01:04:48,931 --> 01:04:52,068
We have an escalation
of the crime

1219
01:04:52,482 --> 01:04:53,896
from picking the victim

1220
01:04:53,896 --> 01:04:56,275
to the violence and force
that was used.

1221
01:04:57,448 --> 01:04:59,275
With the evolution

1222
01:04:59,275 --> 01:05:01,310
of the four incidents,

1223
01:05:01,310 --> 01:05:05,000
violence becomes easier.

1224
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,172
She's kind of desensitized
herself to it.

1225
01:05:10,413 --> 01:05:13,310
Once Dana is sure
that Dora is dead,

1226
01:05:13,310 --> 01:05:15,172
she takes her trophy.

1227
01:05:15,172 --> 01:05:17,655
She took Dora's bank book

1228
01:05:17,655 --> 01:05:19,586
and went to the bank

1229
01:05:20,482 --> 01:05:23,931
and obtained $2,000.

1230
01:05:23,931 --> 01:05:26,724
So again, she is...

1231
01:05:26,724 --> 01:05:28,275
finding trophies.

1232
01:05:28,275 --> 01:05:31,172
She is rewarding herself
for what she has done.

1233
01:05:31,172 --> 01:05:32,793
She is happy

1234
01:05:32,793 --> 01:05:35,793
after she had taken the life
of another elderly woman.

1235
01:05:37,241 --> 01:05:40,793
She is taking care of her own

1236
01:05:40,793 --> 01:05:43,793
narcissistic needs.

1237
01:05:43,793 --> 01:05:47,517
"I need to go get money
out of her bank account

1238
01:05:47,517 --> 01:05:51,448
so I can get what I want
and what I need."

1239
01:05:52,448 --> 01:05:55,137
Ultimately,
Dana felt the world

1240
01:05:55,137 --> 01:05:58,172
had deprived her
of these things,

1241
01:05:58,172 --> 01:06:00,379
so she was going to take them.

1242
01:06:06,655 --> 01:06:07,965
But police don't know

1243
01:06:07,965 --> 01:06:09,620
about the murder
of Dora Beebe

1244
01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:13,000
when they finally catch up
with Dana Sue Gray.

1245
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,310
We hit her boyfriend's house

1246
01:06:15,310 --> 01:06:16,517
in Lake Elsinore.

1247
01:06:16,517 --> 01:06:18,034
I'm in the lead.
I've got all these guys

1248
01:06:18,034 --> 01:06:19,758
with me with guns.

1249
01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:21,275
Dana goes,
"What's this about?"

1250
01:06:21,275 --> 01:06:24,241
And I go, "I think you know
what this is about."

1251
01:06:24,551 --> 01:06:26,068
And I handcuff her.

1252
01:06:26,068 --> 01:06:28,000
I go, "You're under arrest."

1253
01:06:29,482 --> 01:06:30,724
Once I took her into custody,

1254
01:06:30,724 --> 01:06:32,655
we did
the follow-up investigation

1255
01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:34,620
with Dorinda Hawkins
and she picked her out

1256
01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:36,379
of a photo line so she's...

1257
01:06:36,379 --> 01:06:37,517
No problem.

1258
01:06:37,517 --> 01:06:39,137
She picked her right out.

1259
01:06:39,137 --> 01:06:42,103
She said the hair
is different, but that's her.

1260
01:06:42,103 --> 01:06:44,137
It all just kinda fell
into place.

1261
01:06:44,586 --> 01:06:46,379
Once Dana was in custody,

1262
01:06:46,379 --> 01:06:47,586
there was a house of cards.

1263
01:06:47,586 --> 01:06:48,724
It fell in.

1264
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,137
So we get Dana
into the station,

1265
01:07:06,137 --> 01:07:08,172
put her
in the interview room.

1266
01:07:09,517 --> 01:07:11,586
And as I'm walking
through the station,

1267
01:07:11,586 --> 01:07:13,206
I saw two detectives

1268
01:07:13,206 --> 01:07:15,034
from the Riverside County
Sheriff's Department

1269
01:07:15,034 --> 01:07:17,034
using our report
writing room.

1270
01:07:17,758 --> 01:07:19,379
And I go, "What are you guys
doing here?"

1271
01:07:19,379 --> 01:07:22,827
And they go, "We had a murder
tonight in Sun City."

1272
01:07:25,620 --> 01:07:27,724
The person
that found Dora Beebe

1273
01:07:27,724 --> 01:07:30,724
was a long-term boyfriend

1274
01:07:30,724 --> 01:07:33,103
who had observed
the body in the house

1275
01:07:33,103 --> 01:07:37,034
and called to report her
as being murdered.

1276
01:07:37,655 --> 01:07:39,620
I know I should have thought,

1277
01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:41,241
"Wait a minute,
there's a connection?"

1278
01:07:41,241 --> 01:07:43,551
It didn't... It didn't hit me
at that point.

1279
01:07:43,551 --> 01:07:46,206
And I was just too focused
on interviewing Dana.

1280
01:07:46,862 --> 01:07:49,344
So we get Dana
in the interview room,

1281
01:07:49,344 --> 01:07:51,000
do the Miranda rights,

1282
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000
she waives her rights,

1283
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,793
agrees to speak.

1284
01:07:54,793 --> 01:07:56,344
She starts making mentions

1285
01:07:56,344 --> 01:07:59,758
of finding this purse

1286
01:07:59,758 --> 01:08:03,000
and using the card.

1287
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,379
And I'm confused. I'm like,
"What are we talking about?

1288
01:08:06,379 --> 01:08:08,103
What was the name
on the card, right?"

1289
01:08:08,103 --> 01:08:09,758
And she brings up
the victim's name.

1290
01:08:09,758 --> 01:08:11,103
She goes, "Dora Beebe."

1291
01:08:11,103 --> 01:08:12,724
And it hits me.

1292
01:08:15,103 --> 01:08:16,827
So I get up in the middle
of the interview

1293
01:08:16,827 --> 01:08:18,482
and I walk
to the Riverside detectives

1294
01:08:18,482 --> 01:08:20,482
and I go, "What's the name
of your victim?"

1295
01:08:20,482 --> 01:08:22,344
He goes, "Dora Beebe."

1296
01:08:22,344 --> 01:08:25,655
I go, "Don't go anywhere.
I got your suspect."

1297
01:08:28,931 --> 01:08:31,000
With Dana now in custody,

1298
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,827
police execute
the search of her home.

1299
01:08:34,517 --> 01:08:35,931
In Dana Sue Gray's home,

1300
01:08:35,931 --> 01:08:37,793
there were lots
of shopping bags

1301
01:08:37,793 --> 01:08:39,413
filled with
miscellaneous items

1302
01:08:39,413 --> 01:08:41,344
that had been
recently purchased.

1303
01:08:41,344 --> 01:08:44,586
And that's what we compared
to the receipts that we had.

1304
01:08:45,344 --> 01:08:47,241
We looked to see
if there was a hairbrush

1305
01:08:47,241 --> 01:08:49,965
containing blonde hair
and possibly red hair,

1306
01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:53,068
showing the progression
of dyeing her hair.

1307
01:08:53,931 --> 01:08:55,965
In one of her vehicles,
the Cadillac,

1308
01:08:55,965 --> 01:08:58,000
we found the box
of surgical gloves.

1309
01:08:58,689 --> 01:09:00,172
And so this could be
the vehicle

1310
01:09:00,172 --> 01:09:02,517
that was going
between locations

1311
01:09:02,517 --> 01:09:04,137
when she was committing
the murders.

1312
01:09:05,206 --> 01:09:06,551
We had a lot of evidence

1313
01:09:06,551 --> 01:09:09,241
that tied her
to all of the victims.

1314
01:09:09,241 --> 01:09:11,896
I remember having
to go through every shoe

1315
01:09:11,896 --> 01:09:14,103
to see
if we could find a match

1316
01:09:14,103 --> 01:09:15,827
for the Norma Davis scene.

1317
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:18,000
And we found a shoe

1318
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,000
that matched
the exact pattern,

1319
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,620
the exact size.

1320
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:23,310
She had clothes still

1321
01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:24,758
with tags on them

1322
01:09:24,758 --> 01:09:26,620
where she went
on a shopping spree

1323
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:28,413
with June Roberts'
credit card.

1324
01:09:29,034 --> 01:09:30,241
We found the key

1325
01:09:30,241 --> 01:09:32,655
to the cash register
in her house

1326
01:09:32,655 --> 01:09:36,103
that went back
to Dorinda Hawkins' case.

1327
01:09:36,103 --> 01:09:38,379
And $2,000 that was taken

1328
01:09:38,379 --> 01:09:41,172
from Dora Beebe's bank account
in Sun City,

1329
01:09:41,172 --> 01:09:42,965
we found that money
in her stockroom.

1330
01:09:44,896 --> 01:09:46,137
And there were threads

1331
01:09:46,137 --> 01:09:48,068
that ran through
each of those cases

1332
01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:49,655
that tied them all together,

1333
01:09:49,655 --> 01:09:53,310
Dana Sue Gray being the hub
where the evidence

1334
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:54,827
that we obtained
from her home

1335
01:09:54,827 --> 01:09:57,344
tied her to the other scenes.

1336
01:09:57,344 --> 01:10:00,241
The victimology and all
of the different scenes,

1337
01:10:00,241 --> 01:10:02,379
similar type of victim,

1338
01:10:02,379 --> 01:10:05,275
female victims,
elderly, some vulnerable,

1339
01:10:05,275 --> 01:10:07,103
all of those made me believe

1340
01:10:07,103 --> 01:10:10,655
that we had in fact
the right individual.

1341
01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:16,103
News leaked
that they had made

1342
01:10:16,103 --> 01:10:17,586
the arrests.

1343
01:10:17,586 --> 01:10:18,827
It's totally shocking to me.

1344
01:10:18,827 --> 01:10:20,310
I mean,
I just found out just now

1345
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:21,689
that this is the person.

1346
01:10:21,689 --> 01:10:24,034
It's such a relief.
I can't believe it.

1347
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,172
When the news came out,

1348
01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,000
they had a big
press conference.

1349
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,517
And they were talking
to the rarity

1350
01:10:30,517 --> 01:10:32,586
of a female serial killer,

1351
01:10:32,586 --> 01:10:35,137
the rarity of a woman

1352
01:10:35,137 --> 01:10:36,965
using violence

1353
01:10:36,965 --> 01:10:40,931
as opposed to
more of a quiet means,

1354
01:10:40,931 --> 01:10:43,448
which most
female serial killers

1355
01:10:43,448 --> 01:10:45,413
are associated with.

1356
01:10:45,413 --> 01:10:47,896
There are not a lot
of female serial killers,

1357
01:10:47,896 --> 01:10:50,482
and Dana Sue Gray
appears to be

1358
01:10:50,482 --> 01:10:54,034
one of the most lethal
and cunning.

1359
01:10:55,103 --> 01:10:56,896
You can see in her pattern

1360
01:10:56,896 --> 01:10:58,724
that it would have
only continued

1361
01:10:58,724 --> 01:11:02,551
to become more vicious
and led to more victims.

1362
01:11:04,586 --> 01:11:07,275
I think she's a thrill killer

1363
01:11:07,275 --> 01:11:09,655
and a retribution killer.

1364
01:11:09,655 --> 01:11:13,103
Retribution was very large

1365
01:11:13,103 --> 01:11:15,344
in her mind, I believe,

1366
01:11:15,344 --> 01:11:18,137
"Because the whole world
refused to give me

1367
01:11:18,137 --> 01:11:19,862
what I wanted,

1368
01:11:19,862 --> 01:11:22,241
beginning with my mother,

1369
01:11:22,241 --> 01:11:24,758
who would not give me
what I wanted."

1370
01:11:26,206 --> 01:11:27,620
Back at the station,

1371
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:31,551
Detective Greco
questions Dana Sue Gray.

1372
01:11:31,551 --> 01:11:33,275
I think she knew
that it was over.

1373
01:11:33,275 --> 01:11:34,931
I think she knew it was up.

1374
01:11:35,689 --> 01:11:36,965
We have finally caught her.

1375
01:11:36,965 --> 01:11:39,137
She was crying
the whole time.

1376
01:11:40,137 --> 01:11:42,758
It was very strategic crying.

1377
01:11:42,758 --> 01:11:45,413
She was not
genuinely remorseful.

1378
01:11:45,413 --> 01:11:48,344
She was pissed off
that she had been caught,

1379
01:11:48,344 --> 01:11:50,586
and her mind was busy
trying to figure out

1380
01:11:50,586 --> 01:11:52,689
how the hell
to get away with this.

1381
01:11:55,344 --> 01:11:58,241
Around midnight,
a phone call came through.

1382
01:11:58,241 --> 01:11:59,965
It was Joe.

1383
01:12:00,724 --> 01:12:04,034
And he said, "Jeri,
she won't admit a thing.

1384
01:12:04,034 --> 01:12:06,034
I think we need
Russell down here.

1385
01:12:06,034 --> 01:12:08,379
Maybe she'll admit it
to her dad."

1386
01:12:09,793 --> 01:12:11,000
She keeps
talking about wanting

1387
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,344
to see her father.

1388
01:12:12,344 --> 01:12:13,620
So we brought him in there.

1389
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,965
And she was just...

1390
01:12:14,965 --> 01:12:18,551
She was just
distraught, crying.

1391
01:12:18,551 --> 01:12:21,206
Made her feel better
and he was giving her a hug.

1392
01:12:21,206 --> 01:12:23,103
I'm sure
he was completely confused

1393
01:12:23,103 --> 01:12:24,724
by what the heck was going on.

1394
01:12:24,724 --> 01:12:26,172
He didn't know what we had

1395
01:12:26,724 --> 01:12:28,413
or what the evidence was.

1396
01:12:30,620 --> 01:12:33,000
Russell was in there
quite some time.

1397
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,137
He came out,
he had tears in his eyes.

1398
01:12:37,137 --> 01:12:40,379
He said, "Jeri,
she said she didn't do it."

1399
01:12:41,413 --> 01:12:44,689
She said, "Daddy,
I didn't hurt anyone."

1400
01:12:54,965 --> 01:12:57,000
Dana never admitted
to anything,

1401
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,448
you know, in that room.

1402
01:12:59,137 --> 01:13:00,344
I think the person

1403
01:13:00,344 --> 01:13:03,689
in the interrogation
was a new Dana.

1404
01:13:03,689 --> 01:13:08,172
We've got this forceful
lioness of a woman

1405
01:13:08,517 --> 01:13:09,827
who just got cornered.

1406
01:13:09,827 --> 01:13:12,241
He was going to work
very hard

1407
01:13:12,241 --> 01:13:15,206
to lie, fabricate her story,

1408
01:13:15,206 --> 01:13:16,310
and manipulate

1409
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:18,172
all the individuals
around her.

1410
01:13:19,517 --> 01:13:21,068
That night
after the interview

1411
01:13:21,068 --> 01:13:22,413
with Dana,

1412
01:13:23,137 --> 01:13:24,379
Russell and I talked

1413
01:13:24,379 --> 01:13:27,000
and he accepted
that it must be true

1414
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,793
but he couldn't believe it.

1415
01:13:30,448 --> 01:13:33,000
He wasn't angry with me
for turning her in.

1416
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,758
He said
that he probably thought

1417
01:13:34,758 --> 01:13:36,482
I had saved lives.

1418
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,241
That day Russell changed.

1419
01:13:39,896 --> 01:13:42,172
He became very withdrawn.

1420
01:13:42,172 --> 01:13:45,000
He only had
a few close friends,

1421
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,000
but the rest of the world,
he just kind of shut out.

1422
01:13:48,793 --> 01:13:51,310
I don't know
if Russell slept that night.

1423
01:13:51,310 --> 01:13:53,000
I did, finally.

1424
01:13:53,965 --> 01:13:55,172
Dana was in custody

1425
01:13:55,172 --> 01:13:57,448
and she couldn't hurt
anybody else.

1426
01:13:59,517 --> 01:14:02,551
Dana sits in jail
waiting for her trial

1427
01:14:02,551 --> 01:14:06,103
and clinging
to her claim of innocence.

1428
01:14:06,103 --> 01:14:08,724
Several days
after she was arrested

1429
01:14:08,724 --> 01:14:09,931
and in custody,

1430
01:14:09,931 --> 01:14:11,379
I went to the jail

1431
01:14:11,379 --> 01:14:13,931
in hopes of getting
an interview with her.

1432
01:14:14,172 --> 01:14:16,551
I got in the jail

1433
01:14:16,551 --> 01:14:19,862
and went up
to the women's floor

1434
01:14:22,172 --> 01:14:24,275
and she saw me there.

1435
01:14:25,655 --> 01:14:27,448
I identified myself

1436
01:14:27,448 --> 01:14:29,793
and told her
I had reported about it.

1437
01:14:31,620 --> 01:14:33,103
And I said,
"This is your opportunity

1438
01:14:33,103 --> 01:14:35,206
to set the records straight."

1439
01:14:35,896 --> 01:14:38,275
Dana was scowling

1440
01:14:38,275 --> 01:14:40,448
like a angry demeanor.

1441
01:14:41,586 --> 01:14:43,310
She just said no
and walked away.

1442
01:14:46,172 --> 01:14:49,310
Dana refuses
to admit any involvement

1443
01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:52,000
in the gruesome deaths
of Norma Davis,

1444
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,275
June Roberts, and Dora Beebe,

1445
01:14:54,275 --> 01:14:58,413
or the assault and robbery
of Dorinda Hawkins.

1446
01:14:58,413 --> 01:14:59,965
But with
the staggering amount

1447
01:14:59,965 --> 01:15:01,586
of evidence against her,

1448
01:15:01,586 --> 01:15:04,413
the prosecution is seeking
the death penalty.

1449
01:15:05,275 --> 01:15:07,413
Dana pleads not guilty,

1450
01:15:07,413 --> 01:15:09,517
but there's a catch.

1451
01:15:11,034 --> 01:15:15,689
She pled not guilty
by reason of insanity.

1452
01:15:16,241 --> 01:15:17,517
At which point,

1453
01:15:17,517 --> 01:15:21,862
I was requested
to conduct an evaluation

1454
01:15:21,862 --> 01:15:25,379
by Rich Bentley,
the District Attorney.

1455
01:15:27,827 --> 01:15:30,517
Over my professional life,

1456
01:15:30,517 --> 01:15:34,241
I've evaluated
many serial killers.

1457
01:15:35,172 --> 01:15:38,862
But this is the only
female serial killer

1458
01:15:38,862 --> 01:15:40,620
that I ever saw.

1459
01:15:41,344 --> 01:15:43,000
They are very rare.

1460
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,000
Dana understood
what her job was.

1461
01:15:50,137 --> 01:15:51,896
To convince me

1462
01:15:51,896 --> 01:15:53,310
that at the time

1463
01:15:53,310 --> 01:15:55,931
she did not know
what she was doing.

1464
01:15:57,586 --> 01:16:00,241
She cried a number of times,

1465
01:16:00,241 --> 01:16:03,793
but I noted that sometimes
she appeared to cry

1466
01:16:03,793 --> 01:16:06,068
but there were no tears.

1467
01:16:06,758 --> 01:16:10,896
Sometimes,
people try to feign sadness

1468
01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:13,344
when there isn't any.

1469
01:16:13,344 --> 01:16:17,517
I never really saw
any outright anger.

1470
01:16:17,517 --> 01:16:20,103
She could admit
that there was anger

1471
01:16:20,103 --> 01:16:21,758
that had triggered her,

1472
01:16:21,758 --> 01:16:23,793
but I didn't see it.

1473
01:16:23,793 --> 01:16:27,413
I did see a lot of resentment.

1474
01:16:27,413 --> 01:16:30,655
And, "Why me?"

1475
01:16:30,655 --> 01:16:33,896
And, "Look how
they done me wrong?"

1476
01:16:35,551 --> 01:16:37,827
She claims that she was

1477
01:16:37,827 --> 01:16:41,517
looking in herself
outside herself,

1478
01:16:44,103 --> 01:16:46,034
kind of detached,

1479
01:16:46,034 --> 01:16:48,551
and that she did not remember

1480
01:16:48,551 --> 01:16:51,758
significant portions
of what happened,

1481
01:16:51,758 --> 01:16:55,000
but most of the time
with serial killer,

1482
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,448
that's not going to fly.

1483
01:16:57,448 --> 01:16:59,448
With the four murders,

1484
01:16:59,448 --> 01:17:03,241
you have to find yourself
in four different places

1485
01:17:03,241 --> 01:17:05,241
at four different times.

1486
01:17:06,034 --> 01:17:09,068
And that
you were dissociating

1487
01:17:09,068 --> 01:17:11,655
and you don't quite remember

1488
01:17:11,655 --> 01:17:13,689
doesn't quite cut it.

1489
01:17:15,620 --> 01:17:17,896
The pattern for Dana

1490
01:17:17,896 --> 01:17:22,137
is that there are elements
of premeditation

1491
01:17:22,137 --> 01:17:24,448
in all of the killings.

1492
01:17:25,103 --> 01:17:28,103
So I concluded
that she did know

1493
01:17:28,103 --> 01:17:30,034
that what she was doing

1494
01:17:30,034 --> 01:17:33,275
was wrong and illegal.

1495
01:17:34,758 --> 01:17:38,206
She did not meet
the standard for insanity

1496
01:17:38,206 --> 01:17:41,413
at the time
of any of the crimes.

1497
01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:49,241
After years of delays,

1498
01:17:49,241 --> 01:17:54,068
Dana's trial is set to begin
on September 8th, 1998.

1499
01:17:54,068 --> 01:17:57,551
But with just a week to go
before opening arguments,

1500
01:17:57,551 --> 01:18:00,137
Dana throws everyone
a curve ball.

1501
01:18:00,137 --> 01:18:04,413
She pleads guilty
to avoid the death penalty.

1502
01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:06,413
I think the reason
why she took the deal

1503
01:18:06,413 --> 01:18:09,620
was because the psychological
evaluations on her

1504
01:18:09,620 --> 01:18:11,103
came back confident

1505
01:18:11,103 --> 01:18:14,586
and then she would've had
to gone through a trial.

1506
01:18:14,586 --> 01:18:18,206
And there was just
overwhelming evidence

1507
01:18:18,206 --> 01:18:20,034
that would've convicted her.

1508
01:18:23,275 --> 01:18:25,310
Part of the plea bargain
agreement was,

1509
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:26,827
"I'll plead out
to these three.

1510
01:18:26,827 --> 01:18:28,586
That would be June Roberts,

1511
01:18:28,586 --> 01:18:31,000
Dorinda Hawkins,
and Dora Beebe.

1512
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,034
But you can't come after me
for Norma."

1513
01:18:35,448 --> 01:18:37,482
I think Dana

1514
01:18:37,482 --> 01:18:39,551
didn't want to admit
to anyone

1515
01:18:39,551 --> 01:18:42,862
that she killed my nana,
ever, including her dad.

1516
01:18:43,896 --> 01:18:45,137
She can't face anybody

1517
01:18:45,137 --> 01:18:47,103
if she says
she killed my nana.

1518
01:18:49,103 --> 01:18:51,482
She wanted
to have a relationship

1519
01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:52,896
with her father,

1520
01:18:52,896 --> 01:18:56,689
but she would have lost
that relationship

1521
01:18:56,689 --> 01:19:00,068
had she admitted
to killing Norma.

1522
01:19:00,068 --> 01:19:01,103
And she doesn't want

1523
01:19:01,103 --> 01:19:02,068
to lose the support

1524
01:19:02,068 --> 01:19:03,620
of her father's money

1525
01:19:03,620 --> 01:19:07,206
and putting money
on the books for her canteen.

1526
01:19:07,206 --> 01:19:09,724
She is the perfect pairing

1527
01:19:09,724 --> 01:19:12,965
of that entitlement
and narcissism

1528
01:19:12,965 --> 01:19:18,758
and that antisocial
behavioral harm to others.

1529
01:19:18,758 --> 01:19:21,724
Lack of remorse,
does not give a .

1530
01:19:23,448 --> 01:19:26,413
But Norma
had to be off the table

1531
01:19:26,413 --> 01:19:28,689
for her to be willing
to confess

1532
01:19:28,689 --> 01:19:31,931
to the other incidents.

1533
01:19:35,413 --> 01:19:38,517
The victims' families
were all consulted

1534
01:19:38,517 --> 01:19:41,137
as to whether
they approved of this

1535
01:19:41,137 --> 01:19:43,000
but not my family.

1536
01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:48,310
They were not contacted
in any way,

1537
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:50,827
and they deeply resented it.

1538
01:19:52,482 --> 01:19:55,379
They really thought
they should've had a voice

1539
01:19:55,379 --> 01:19:57,689
in what happened to her.

1540
01:19:57,689 --> 01:20:00,206
In exchange
for her guilty plea,

1541
01:20:00,206 --> 01:20:03,103
Dana is sentenced
to life in prison

1542
01:20:03,103 --> 01:20:04,448
without parole.

1543
01:20:06,172 --> 01:20:07,655
I don't have
a problem with her

1544
01:20:07,655 --> 01:20:09,000
getting life without parole.

1545
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,655
I do have a problem
with her not being charged

1546
01:20:10,655 --> 01:20:12,103
of my nana's murder.

1547
01:20:14,758 --> 01:20:17,172
Dana has never said to me

1548
01:20:17,172 --> 01:20:19,482
or to anyone else
that I know of

1549
01:20:19,482 --> 01:20:21,586
that she feels anything

1550
01:20:21,586 --> 01:20:23,724
for these people
that she killed.

1551
01:20:24,551 --> 01:20:26,758
The closest
she ever came to it

1552
01:20:26,758 --> 01:20:28,448
was in a letter to me

1553
01:20:29,241 --> 01:20:32,758
in which she said,
"Yes, there is remorse."

1554
01:20:34,241 --> 01:20:36,551
To me, that's not an apology.

1555
01:20:36,551 --> 01:20:38,586
It's not an explanation.

1556
01:20:38,586 --> 01:20:40,758
It left me
with just as many doubts

1557
01:20:40,758 --> 01:20:42,275
as I've had before.

1558
01:20:43,413 --> 01:20:47,724
I did visit Dana
when she was in the facility.

1559
01:20:47,724 --> 01:20:50,482
I took Russ there
on a weekly basis.

1560
01:20:51,413 --> 01:20:53,000
The first time it was fine.

1561
01:20:54,551 --> 01:20:57,275
The next time
we went to see Dana,

1562
01:20:57,275 --> 01:20:59,241
I suddenly got ill.

1563
01:21:02,448 --> 01:21:05,689
I felt like I was
in the presence of evil,

1564
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,344
just plain evil.

1565
01:21:09,034 --> 01:21:10,689
I was sick to my stomach.

1566
01:21:11,758 --> 01:21:15,310
I left the room immediately
and went downstairs to wait.

1567
01:21:17,172 --> 01:21:18,551
I don't know why I got sick

1568
01:21:18,551 --> 01:21:21,137
but I couldn't stand
to see Dana.

1569
01:21:21,137 --> 01:21:23,000
And I never went back.

1570
01:21:27,517 --> 01:21:30,413
My only closure is
that every day she lives,

1571
01:21:30,413 --> 01:21:32,586
it's probably not
a good day for her.

1572
01:21:32,586 --> 01:21:35,586
She's got a tough time
and she's had to think about

1573
01:21:35,586 --> 01:21:37,448
all the horrible,
horrible things

1574
01:21:37,448 --> 01:21:38,793
that she's done.

1575
01:21:40,655 --> 01:21:43,793
Had she had a chance
to hone her crime,

1576
01:21:45,413 --> 01:21:47,517
and not have been caught,

1577
01:21:50,103 --> 01:21:53,482
I think she would've been one
of the most notorious killers

1578
01:21:53,482 --> 01:21:55,448
of our time.

1579
01:21:55,448 --> 01:21:59,068
It made me realize
that killers walk among us.

1580
01:22:01,758 --> 01:22:03,275
And you don't even know it.

1581
01:22:04,655 --> 01:22:06,862
They can be your cousin,

1582
01:22:06,862 --> 01:22:08,275
your grandchild,

1583
01:22:08,275 --> 01:22:10,724
your neighbor,

1584
01:22:10,724 --> 01:22:12,000
your friend,

1585
01:22:13,034 --> 01:22:14,551
your stepdaughter,

1586
01:22:15,793 --> 01:22:19,586
somebody you've
skydived with.

1587
01:22:19,586 --> 01:22:21,517
I don't know
why Dana did this.

1588
01:22:21,517 --> 01:22:23,896
She wanted
what she didn't have.

1589
01:22:24,655 --> 01:22:27,275
She thought
I had more money than I did

1590
01:22:28,034 --> 01:22:29,689
so she wanted that.

1591
01:22:29,689 --> 01:22:31,517
She wanted the condo.

1592
01:22:33,206 --> 01:22:35,448
She wanted a better car.

1593
01:22:36,655 --> 01:22:38,620
She just plain wanted.

1594
01:22:47,413 --> 01:22:49,931
Dana Sue Gray's
month-long murder spree

1595
01:22:49,931 --> 01:22:53,275
terrorized the people
in her community and beyond.

1596
01:22:53,275 --> 01:22:55,448
She chose elderly victims

1597
01:22:55,448 --> 01:22:57,172
who couldn't fight back,

1598
01:22:57,172 --> 01:23:00,000
easy targets
for this twisted psychopath

1599
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,862
who seemed to crave
the thrill of killing.

1600
01:23:02,862 --> 01:23:04,862
To this day,
the families of her victims

1601
01:23:04,862 --> 01:23:07,000
remain haunted by the nurse
who became one

1602
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,000
of America's most notorious
female serial killers.

1603
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,551
I'm Donnie Wahlberg,

1604
01:23:12,551 --> 01:23:14,137
thanks for watching.

1605
01:23:14,137 --> 01:23:15,275
Good night.